This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page.
Could an admin please delete files on this redlink category and those with this prefix on filename? I was facing with issues on Commonist not recognizing TIF files on my bot/flood flag account and tried to upload using Special:UploadWizard, but didn't noticed that the options chosen by me ended in renumbering the files...
I discovered that File:NES Cleaning Kit.JPG displayed non-free box art to the left of the two objects that are now in the picture. I cropped the image to remove the box. Could someone please remove the old versions of the image (also, if I did something wrong with the cropping, let me know or fix it)? Thanks, RJaguar3 (talk) 03:33, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
Can Commons give automatic verifiction to these 200+ imagers by uploader Blackwhiteupl? (This was an idea that Fæ suggested for some images by reliable uploaders on August 25 on this noticeboard. All his panoramio images from his Kalispera Dell panoramio account have always been cc by 3.0 generic (as far as I've seen) and while it would be nice to manually to check all his images by the license, I don't have the time and will have less time after September 2. So, I just marked a few...where I checked the license. But perhaps someone can mass pass these images. The uploader uses some kind of image software on his uploaded images to 'tint' or shade them which causes an error to the panoramio bot that marks them. Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 02:13, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
Speaking on behalf of Commons at WikiProject Korea
I wanted to run this by you all here, before posting this to en:Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Korea, we don't want the communities at other projects to feel aggrieved because files that they have been using so far without issue suddenly being put up for dr and disappearing. Do you think it right of me to post this on behalf of Commons, or should I try and reword it to make it a personal suggestion only?
Hi all, at Commons we are currently reviewing Freedom of Panorama, with regards modern buildings in South Korea, thus far the consensus is that files depicting modern buildings in South Korea, are not compatible with Commons, and will have to be deleted. This will affect all articles, which use such files, for example File:Seoul montage 2013.jpg which is the lead image for the article on Seoul. You are welcome to participate in the discussion, and to suggest ways in which this will have the least impact on articles here, by for example making local fair use copies of files you believe vital to an article, e.g. as has been done with en:File:Korea-Seoul-N Seoul Tower-01.jpg used in the article N Seoul Tower, generally I think in order to comply with en:Wikipedia:Non-free content its going to be one file per article, which best illustrates the building or public art work in question. Thanks for listening and please do help us to help you.
Seems like a nice thing to do. You may want to link to the bot that copies marked images to local wikis from Commons in these situations. I can never remember its name. --Fæ (talk) 11:33, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
I´m a bit puzzled what to do with this category. The problem isn´t the lack of clothing (I´m not such a prude) or the cyrillic spelling or the lack of categorization (I know about category redirects) but that the images refer to a notable person, a bulgarian lawyer and entrepreneur with an own wiki-article bg:Иво Недялков and another Commons category (Category:Ivo Nedyalkov). So this might be a personality rights issue: It doesn´t look like he had objections against being photographed, but I´m not sure if this means consent to a publication at Commons as well. Perhaps an admin could look into the issue? I thought about a simple deletion nomination to have this discussed, but felt that a notice here was the more discreet and faster way to solve it (it seems to take quite a while before deletion discussions are decided). Thanks, --Rudolph Buch (talk) 21:15, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
I have speedily deleted the content, since it is obviously out of project scope. Even if this person is notable (however I tend to think that the Bulgarian article is just promotional spam), their "nude beach photos" are not appropriate to illustrate the article about them; and as standalone photos of naked men it is out of scope as well, due to poor quality and lack of encyclopedical usefulness (per COM:Nudity). I've also deleted additional "clothed" photos of this person (added by same user), as they refer to Facebook and appear to be a copyright violation. --A.Savin23:13, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
This User subpage is not actually a Javascript, is only prommotional content (without any Javascript syntax). I'm unable to tag the page for Speedy deletion because is a Javascript and is protected. Please delete. --Amitie 10g (talk) 03:10, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
I think it would be much better to tag obvious copyvios (posters, album covers, TV screenshots, images copied from Google, Facebook, same random blog, etc.) as copyvio, instead of no license or no permission (specially as done by @JuTa: . Regards, Yann (talk) 14:31, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Hi, I am using Visual File Change to mark all images uploaded with {{Remove this line and insert a license instead}} and not yet marked with any other problem tag or i.e. {{OTRS pending}} like {{[Oo][Tt][Rr][Ss]|{{[Pp]ermission|{{[Nn]o permission|{{[Nn]o source|{{[Nn]o OTRS permission since|{{[Nn]o license|{{[Dd]elete|[Cc]opyvio. I do that more or less once a day. While doing that I don't even see the description pages. So I can't differ between just forgotten licenses of self created images and google grabs or similar. This takes me about 15 to 30 minutes a day. Looking indiviualy into every image and mark it approciate after imspection would take 30 to 60 seconds per image. With about 100 to 200 images a day of this kind that this would sum up to 1 to 3 hours a day. (I did so early last year, as I remember.) If someone else is able and willing to spend this time on a more or less daily base to mark those images more individualy it would be highly appreciated from my point of view. I, for my part, am not able or willing to spend more time in this type of activity. Or: Is there any other method to split i.e. obvious copyright violations from i.e. "just forgotten licenses" without spending too much time every day in it? I would be happy to use that method. regards --JuTa18:35, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
This is a non-issue imo; regardless of which tag is applied, these files are eventually deleted anyways. In other words, I suppose you could think of it as many paths to the same destination -FASTILY20:54, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
IMO it is important for 2 reasons: 1. obvious copyvios should not be kept for a week, 2. it educates the uploader better. Otherwise, instead of not adding a license, s/he will add a bogus license for the next upload, and this gives us more work. To me, it takes the same time for adding a copyvio or a no license tag. Regards, Yann (talk) 17:45, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
Kuvia poistettavaksi/Pictures to delete
Olen lisännyt delete mallineen muutamiin omiin ottamiin kuviin. Voitsiko joku poistaa ne. Annan hänelle kaikki valtuudet poistaa kuvat. Ne ovat minun ottamia.
I have add the delete template to some photos which I have taken. Could some one delete them. I will give all the rights to him/her to delete them. They are my taken photos.
--Paasikivi (talk) 17:21, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
Do you think this could be deleted speedily? I don't feel I should do it myself now, after nominating the file, but Micha has a point - apparently, this image was uploaded mistakenly by the Swiss National Library and they realize now that it's not part of the public domain collection they wanted to upload. Would be a positive sign for GLAM cooperation if they don't have to jump through hoops to get it deleted. Besides, it seems to be clearly not in the public domain in the U.S. Gestumblindi (talk) 23:40, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
That's quite enough - the deletions were proper and within policy. @Orgio89 - please note that personal attacks like the ones you made in this thread are not tolerated on Commons. Consider yourself warned. -FASTILY05:21, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
The following discussion is archived. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
My images and files are being illegally sabotaged by A.Savin for last few weeks. He is also deleting my images categories especially anything related to Mongolia. Last image deletion is here. All the Mongolia related image categories being deleted by this person. My 2 uploaded images recently illegally deleted by this person. Please review this persons actions!! Thank you. Orgio89 (talk) 03:00, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
I understand that human rights violation in Russia is rampant as this person is from there. But on Wikipedia there is no any rules saying that a Russian admin can sabotage anything related to Russian neighboring country especially their culture and history that my last deleted image was related to Mongolian history and culture which was inserted into corresponding page. Orgio89 (talk) 03:12, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
These deletion requests are in line with Commons policy and Mongolian law. We can't host images of modern buildings, sculptures, etc, in Mongolia, because the Mongolian law on Freedom of panorama prohibits it. See Commons:Freedom_of_panorama#Mongolia. Your comments about Russia are out of line, and your accusations against Savin are unfounded and mistaken. I would suggest you don't repeat them. INeverCry04:28, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
But there is another image of mine was not showing any building but only plants and flowers. Why did he delete that image? Plus then why do not you delete other images by western tourists posted Mongolian modern buildings like here or here. Your modern building prohibition law citation sounds little too much unfounded as there are hundreds/thousands of Mongolian modern building photos on Wikicommon, just search Mongolia or Ulaanbaatar. Orgio89 (talk) 04:35, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
Plus can you explain then why you can have England, Germany, Russia category here on commons files but not Mongolia category? As A.Savin sabotaged my files. Orgio89 (talk) 04:39, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
Cordial saludo:
Soy el hijo de Gladys del Campo y quien hizo la biografia de ella anexando una foto que es de mi archivo familiar y la cual fue eliminada por Ustedes.
Solicito por lo tanto que nuevamente se pueda ver en su biografia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.128.86.9 (talk • contribs)
Hola
Si desea que la fotografía File:Gladys_del_Campo.jpg sea restaurada debe enviar un email siguiendo los pasos que figuran en COM:OTRS, garantizando así el permiso correspondiente. Una vez sea tramitado el email y si se valida por parte del personal de OTRS, la imagen será restaurada por un administrador son necesidad de que usted lo solicite en COM:UR.
Hello! Feel free to move this discussion if it is not in the correct place. In regards to the image file File:Presidential Standard of the Republic of Korea.svg, there seems to have been a great deal of older versions of this file that were deleted. As of right now, the earliest upload is by User:Fry1989 on 03:17, 3 Jul. 2014. Whereas the original version of this file was uploaded by User:Nudimmud around 20 Dec. 2009. You will notice that Nudimmud's original licensing information is still there. Even though I do not have access to the logs of this file, I would assume that since the original licensing information is there, that this file was not deleted entirely, but rather partially with older versions of the file prior to 3 Jul. 2014 deleted. I would like to know more, if possible, about the reason why the older versions of this file along with its file history were deleted. Perhaps a link to an archived deletion request somewhere would be of great help. While I understand that there were quite a deal of unnecessary reversions caused by edit-warring, I should think that the original upload is very much relevant and necessary. Please, at least undelete User:Nudimmud's original uploaded version from back around 20 Dec. 2009 and its associated history, as he is still the original creator of this file and the licensing agreements would have to be changed otherwise. Thank you very much! --Shibo7706:05, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Anyone know why this should be CC? If i'm correct, then it's ASTOUNDING that it got these awards with the wrong license.
The Goddard Space Flight Center license page says it's no copyright, see here. While the flickr page says CC, that doesn't mesh with the PD NASA license.
Appears all NASA images are PD unless otherwise stated. All Goddard Center images on flicker are CC, but that may be simply because flickr does not let you choose PD as a license. What's the policy in this situation? PumpkinSkytalk15:40, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Please nuke and warn. Entire "collection" appears to be unfree, with no or only unclear source information provided. FDMS 4 13:32, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
The following discussion is archived. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
Discussion has petered out and there is no specific administrative action actively requested or expected. Unblock requests are best on the blocked account talk page, while the more general discussion about whether some sexual photographs are appropriate for this project would be more usefully taken up at the talk page of Nudity or for wider community discussion on the village pump rather than for sysop eyes only. Though there is some value in folks having their say and sharing their feelings, I am boldly closing this thread here, as the length is already at an unrealistically TLDR level compared to the norm for concise (and non-purple) requests on this noticeboard. --Fæ (talk) 13:35, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
To cut a long story short, David Condrey has been the subject of a recent blocking and targeted by various admins due to a mass DR by him that involved penis pictures. He has tried to defend himself but been ridiculed or ignored by the people responsible. He is unable to post anywhere on Common due to his blocking, so I will undertake that responsibility.
Everything you need to know is in the link in the title of this section. I urge you to read it and make up your own mind.--Coin945 (talk) 12:27, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
It's not all his fault, but the process he started ended up causing a lot of damage, and the rhetoric he chose to use exacerbated the situation in some people's eyes. Notice that you didn't link to the actual page Commons:Deletion requests/penis... -- AnonMoos (talk) 15:05, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
If David Condrey is indeed the author of such images as the ones I nominated for deletion then why did he upload poor quality stock photos demonstrably lifted directly off the web instead of uploading his own superior quality personal files that, if he truly is the photographer, he should be expected to have? The ones I nominated for deletion I was able to show all had duplicate files on the Web with dates far pre-dating his own uploads to Wikipedia. They didn't look like his own work, so I investigated, and I reported those that looked like clear copyvio. I also looked closely at other images and because I could not see evidence of their being copyvio I did not report those. The act of requesting mass delete on a lot of pictures without even bothering to individually assess each and every one was something that you would expect to be the act of a disruptive troll instead of a legitimate user. The ultimate irony was that after declaring 600+ images depicting nudity disgusting, he then uploaded a topless photo - which made his behaviour look even more suspicious. Please note that when I traced the one picture back to a person called David Condrey's account on a free-use image site, I left a response on his page explaining why I had taken the actions I had. Someone who randomly demands a mass delete of images using professional terms like "disgusting" must expect to be looked at to see if they are indeed a legitimate account, and when their page history shows lots of warnings for copyvio, reports of deleted images, and their own uploads show a motley assortment of stock photos (mainly reported and deleted now) and super-good images, that doesn't look very credible. I also argued that this user was probably legitimate on User_talk:Denniss, but noted that their behaviour in general seemed very strange.
So yes, I looked closely at the user history and contributions of someone who made a disruptive, major edit - because it was the act of a troll rather than a legitimate user - and I saw apparent violations, which I investigated and saw reasons why they should be reported. Which I reported, and they were deleted because evidence strongly indicated that a crappy-quality little stock photo had been on Amazon's database for five years before someone on here decided to upload it and claim it as their own work. I stand by my actions. If you behave in a trollish manner then you must expect this to draw attention to your behaviour elsewhere on the site. Mabalu (talk) 15:52, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
Incidentally, Coin945, what was it about this specific case that brought you back after a 2+ year absence from this site, having only made a few edits back in 2012? Just asking. Mabalu (talk) 16:03, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
I read everything you said and understand your point of view, so my replying to the last thing I am not discounting anything else. Confused and frustrated, unable to post to anything but his Commons talk page, David posted to the talk page of a project he mentioned being a part of: Wikipedia:Today's articles for improvement. The purpose is being collaborative and friendly when improving articles so I guess it's what prompted him to ask us for help and advice. My response does seem pointed as I read it back, but I know he is a very competent editor and watching him threaten to quit Wikipedia due to this incident really upset me at that moment in time. I decided to help him out my starting the discussion he wanted to, but was unable to due to his blocking. I thought I had reviewed all the evidence, but it turned out I hadn't, and the more I read I acquired a more comprehensive view of the situation, and no longer consider you "power-abusive administrators...defending...the dick-pic epidemic". I apologise for that assertion.--Coin945 (talk) 17:13, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
He's able to post on his talk page, which he's done at great length. He's taken no responsibility for the mass DR he put together, which included Grey's Anatomy diagrams, and, all told, 100+ images that were in use. This was a targeted act of trolling/vandalism. I blocked him because I wasn't sure a professional photog, if he is one, would go to those lengths to damage Commons and other projects, and, of course, for the DR itself and copyvios. On his talk he brushes off the DR like it was legit and no big deal. I'm man enough to admit that I was a stupid fuck for deleting them, and I've tried to do what I could to fix my mistake; it's too bad this user won't take responsibility for his actions. This includes the copyvios he's been uploading. His explanation on his talk for the mass DR is pure bullshit, as is most of his long diatribe. He should man up instead of playing the victim, and having others attempt to paint him as such. INeverCry16:28, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
I request that David be unblocked, among other reasons, so he can take part on this discussion. It is vital that he have a chance to represent himself. I am just the messenger so will not argue either side here (though I have stated my personal view on his talk page).--Coin945 (talk) 17:15, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
He can speak for himself on his talkpage. He should start by explaining his motivation for commiting a major act of vandalism. I don't think anyone could possibly believe that his reasons for posting that destructive DR were benign and innocent. I would oppose any unblock of him as long as he continues to shirk responsibility for his actions, pretend he did nothing wrong, and falsely accuse others of unfairly targeting him. INeverCry17:44, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
Although I am pretty sure he hit those point in the thorough response he gave on his talk page, I have asked him to specifically address the points you gave. After he has done so, I will link his response here so you can see the facts and truth behind all the speculation and knee-jerk reactions to a DR.--Coin945 (talk) 13:47, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
I respond only respecting Coin's comment about asking me to address this matter again. There will not be monitoring this page or this site again or responding to any further comments on this issue whatsoever.
As an active member of the English Wikipedia project I primarily take part in the Articles for Improvement WikiProject and have a pencent for my interest and talent and researching and finding information and high caliper references which I use to expand articles in collaboation with other memebers of the TAFI wikiproject. Last week our article of focus was Raven Tales which relates to oral and written stories of a mythic Raven character by the Native American tribes and indigenous people of the pacific coast along the western regions of Canada and what's now the United States.
I made significant edits to that article nearly every single day of that week and ultimately increased the size of that article with over 42,000 bytes of added content just myself.. I mention only to substantiate my work as a positive contributor to Wikipedia and the motivation that indirectly started this.. I was on Wikipedia Commons searching for Totem poles and other images related to native american indians while I was at the office at work one day during some down time. While I was searching, I started noticing that images of male genitalia were coming up in the thumbnail results which was more than a little obnoxious considering I had to stop what I was doing concerned that if a coworker walked by and saw my screen peppered with penis thumbnails it would result in a rather awkward scenario. So I discontinued for the timebeing.
Later that evening when i went home I remembered that. I had been more than a little surprised by the images. I mean, I understand Wikipedia is a resource of information and of course one would expect that Wikipedia would have articles related to the male and female reproductive organs, even various sexual activity, maybe even sex toys to be liberal about the whole thing... But with all those subjects taking to account.. I can see how that would perhaps explain a dozen or so images that any one person may deem inappropriate in different context but we're not talking a dozen, two dozen, even a dozen dozen.
When I went home I decided to see for myself if this were an isolated situation that I had just happened to stumble across. But it was not. Without hardly any effort at all I immediately pulled up well over 600 images. It didn't take more than a few moments for me to find dozens of categories, housing hundreds upon hundreds of images and even videos and GIF animations.. ridiculous.
Now I'm far from a stringent republican or anything. I'm actually very liberal. If I sit here and try to count every possible subject that might substantiate one of these images, and then I double that number just to account for anything I might not of thought of... I still can't come up with any reason why Wikipedia might find so many of these images acceptable.
Wikipedia is a standard amongst society. Kids are directed to search wikipedia in gradeschool. Wikipedia is often the first result when people search a subject on Google. Tell me, if my baby niece happened to stumble upon the same scenario that I did... There's no reason for it. And so I decided to do something about it.
Heck, other Wikipedia projects aside, there is actually even a Commons policy about images depicting nudity. And while that may be seen as claim that my action was wrong; I view it as yes.. perhaps.. that's would justify claim that a fraction of the images i listed should not have been listed. But the fraction that should have been kept, is minute in comparison to the huge amount that should be removed.. and I don't think anyone can argue that it's unreasonable to expect that some images could be mistakenly caught up in the overdue cleaning of these images.
You'll notice in the request for deletion I started off requesting the deletion of a few images, and quickly realized that I was not even going to make a scratch on the surface of the problem without taking more drastic measures so I started opening up categories and just highlighting the whole page, copying it over to Textmate (my text editor of choice) and filtering out all text other than file names. I assumed, incorrectly apparently, that I would not be the only one who viewed as being such a problem and assumed that perhaps Commons just did not have as much of an active membership as the flagship wikipedia that I've been a part of. It seemed reasonable that perhaps this was just an issue that had slowly grown out of control under the nose of everyone without notice; or if anyone had noticed and tried to do something they likely gave up feeling as though they were unable to even make a dent in the problem by flagging one image at a time.
Hell I thought somebody might thank me for making the issue apparent; but as a precautionary measure, in case of opposition, I tried to add a touch of lightheartedness to my deletion request and again wrongly assumed that the request was hardly necessary; as as soon as I made it apparent I figured it would be quickly catch the attention of the powers that be and the appropriate measures would be taken to clean these inappropriate images off of Wikipedia.
Unfortunately, I admit, in my unbiast hunt and collection of image file names to add to the list, I started getting a bit too eager just digging through genitalia categories and copying everything. I would look through them at first, and then I found myself quickly scanning; until after several pages I could very well have not even scrolled beyond what showed up at the top of the category. But after the several pages of images I did look thru being nothing but poorly shot, inappropriate images with little to no purpose I don't think it's a far fetch to start thinking that's what I'd find in all the pages in these categories.
Besides, listing for deletion is not deletion.. there are supposedly multiple levels of the deletion process to prevent wrongful deletions. So I made the post and all but forgot about it the next day. For the next couple of days I checked the list of deletion requests and I saw my post was still there and had not been responded to. At first I was checking to see.. thinking if my action had been inappropriate somebody might revert the post; I figured the biggest complaint would lilkey be simply the size of the list overwhelming the deletion logs. But it was still there everytime I checked. I thought it odd there were no responses or discussion.. Figured perhaps that could be another reason why the issue had never been addressed, I figured Wikipedians such as myself perhaps did not want to have to browse through such a large list of inappropriate images and thus were chosing to ignore it rather than put their hands in the muck and clean it up.
After 2 or 3 days I had all but forgotten about it and moved on; letting myself get more and more caught up in the Raven Tales which I was quite enjoying.
And then.. I haven't checked how long it was.. at least a week.. maybe a week and ahlf or so since I posted that deletion list and I woke up on Saturday and saw that my account was blocked and some images I had posted were being deleted. Without looking too deeply into the issue I immediately assumed that this must be the work of one person .. some kid .. who knows.. I looked at the reasoning.. it said somethign about me not being me so I composed myself, even took a picture of myself and uploaded it to my server so I could link to it.. and I posted my initial unblock request with links to the picture proving my identity and links to several of my other profiles across the web. I figured as soon as a properly mature admin saw my request all would be resolved and it would be chalked up to some other unrelated issue perhaps I was mistaken for or perhaps a bot admin or who the heck knows. It was Saturday, i was sleeping in, I just got on my computer in my underwear to check my freakin email and was having to deal with this.. I just wanted to go make pancakes and enjoy my Saturday.
So I stepped away. Figured all would be well wehn I returned but it was not. How could it have possibly escalated even further.. the complaint about my identity had been voluntarily and immediately proven to be without merit.. what could possibly substantiate further debate.. The rest of my story you can probably narrate better than I can because I have not visited Wikipedia Commons since I wrote my previous lengthy response. I was not going to even write this post because my previous post covered every point I wanted to cover but since Coin was valant enough to stand up for Wikipedia policy; I figured it would not be right for me to not in turn respond when he requested I address the matter further.
Throughout the whole saga as it's being referred to. I have not, nor do I have any interest whatsoever in arguing, fighting, belittling, demeaning, or in any way acting in any manner other than a civil adult. But before the matter even got up to speed I saw people writing statements not claiming, but stating the fact that I had done such irreputable things as impersonate, infringe, etc.. Well, perhaps not to you.. but even that single instance alone in which someone blantantly states that I in fact am guilty of something that would degrade me.. that's a very VERY serious issue to me. It not only irritates me, and angers me, but it potentially affects me amongst my real life peers, friends, and professional collieges as someone whose career is based heavily around the internet and it is not uncommon, rather it is expected that any professional I deal with in my day to day activity will undoubtely Google me, and look up my various online accounts; including this one on Wikipedia. My name is David Lee Condrey. I'm 33 years old and live in Hollywood, CA. I'm not difficult to find and while people tend to think I'm not interested.. I'm really just quietly listening, watching. I don't speak unless I have something worth listening to. I moved to Los Angeles 5 years ago after I had spent the better part of the past 10 years struggling with homelessness and severe drug addiction which stems from my past and the previous 4 years in which I'd been an active enlisted member of the US Marine Corps.. having not been sitting on a couch watching news of the Iraq invasion after the world trade center was destroyed.. but crouched behind a pile of sandbags in the back of a 18-wheel truck with a half dozen other guys as we were somewhere in the line of vehicles as far as the eye could see about to cross the border from Kuwait into Iraq and hope that we didn't have a bomb land on our head. I'm the guy, who did all that, only to finally decide that I better grow the fuck up and do something with my life so I moved to LA, and 4 days sober I started college to become something that everyone who knew me even remotely said was ridiculous.. I went to film school. 4 days sober I started school and for 2 years I worked my fucking ass off and graduated saludictorian of my class of nearly 50 people. I didn't even go to graduation because I was already working on my second feature film. The only one of my class to be successful. Again, it was ridiculous when I said I was going to join the camera union within a year of graduating school. I didn't quite make it, it took a year and a half but during that time I worked shoulder to shoulder with people including Steven Spielberg on the set of Super8, Vilmos Zsigmond who shot Close Encounters of the 3rd Kind, and plenty of others who aren't really that important. I was on my way to really doing great things and then I got sick.. You see, when I got out of the military; I came out as gay. I'd never had a real relationship with anybody before... and you know as luck would have it.. it didn't take long for me to come out.. a young 22 year old - somebody showed interest in me and I was in love. He gave me love and he gave me drugs and he even gave me AIDS. 10+ years later it was catching up to me.
So I no longer work in the film industry. I had to give that dream up when I was in the hospital for a month and the doctors couldn't figure out what was wrong with me. Now I work as a web developer.. something I've always been a natural at.
The reason I end my story with a quick summary of me because I think it's important that if your going to make claims as to my character you should at least have some, even if only vague, idea of who I am. And this is the one and only time you will ever see me say anything that I'm sure I'll regret writing later... But if your going to write / speak / or even think negatively of me YOU CAN GO ____ YOURSELF. I will not allow you to claim any further of my attention because... your not worth it to me. Because I know what's right and what's wrong and I know when I'm dealing with individuals who can not be reasoned with. Any more attention that you put forth to responding negatively hoping to upset me or degrade me is doing nothing more than sucking up your own time, and attention. Because I don't care. I'm not a religious person whatsoever but I think you helped me find faith. Thank you. I have faith that this issue will at some point in time catch the eye of someone who has a sense of reason and everything will be resolved.
This letter is uncensored, unedited, and straight from the heart it is posted anonymously by David Condrey since he did not want to have to ask Coin to post it for him.
As a Wikipedian, you should know damn well that sexual matters are controversial. As a Wikipedia, you should know better then to try and delete a file without putting a deletion notice on it. As anyone who has created anything anywhere, you should know that calling their work "disgusting, disgusting, lol" is a way to offend anyone. But hey, if you've given offense to anyone, they can go fuck themselves (and note that it's more important to you to censor the word then the personal attack on everyone around you.)--Prosfilaes (talk) 09:25, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
I am not unsympathetic at all (As I noted, some of the images probably should HAVE been deleted, but not like this) - but David Condrey, I hope that you at least understand why people would have seen your behaviour as strange and suspicious and that your actual activity on the site was inconsistent. As I said, you uploaded some excellent, high quality images - and then you came back and uploaded other images that seemed to have just been yanked off Amazon websites or Google searches - poor quality, small, degraded images that a reverse image search showed had been used on commercial sites on the Web for several years before you uploaded them to Wikipedia. I'm not saying it's impossible that they were your "own work" as you claimed. I'm just saying that the behaviour seemed unlike that of either a professional photographer or a legit Wikipedian. As an artist myself, if I wanted to upload a drawing that I did back in 2002, I certainly wouldn't want it to be a hugely degraded, worn out file that had been floating around the web for 12 years. I'd try to find the original drawing and make a new file, or at least find the best quality original scan/file I still had, because I would want my work to at least look nice. So what I'm saying is - you have uploaded some very, very good photographs - first class quality even - and then you have turned around and uploaded random, poor quality stock photos apparently directly off websites under an "Own work" claim. Do you really not see how suspicious that looks? It is like a used car salesman whose lot has some Rolls Royces among a lot of junky jalopies that have obviously been around the block many times. No matter how much the salesman insists they are all legitimately his, the good stuff looks dodgy.
While the penis nomination itself was no doubt triggered out of good motives, and yes - I'm sure many of the images should be deleted - you went about it in the wrong way, and I think you do realise that now. And yes, I was stunned when my (absolutely non-pornographic) image was deleted under the discussion - I had no notice of the deletion nomination, I had no idea it was even up for discussion until I saw notices on Wikipedia itself that the pic files had been pulled off their Wikipedia pages (and then reinstated). Discovering that someone had listed over 600 images for deletion and that they had been unquestioningly deleted as a result was a bit of a surprise, not least as I had not been warned of this. Whether you intended to or not, what it looked like was classic disruptive troll behaviour. I'm not saying you are a troll. I'm saying that this is what it looked like. At best, I thought maybe it was some prissy redneck fundamentalist trying to turn Wikipedia into Fluffy Baby Animals and Holy Republican Jesus Lovers World, so realising that the person who had done so was representing themselves as a legitimate photographer (but again, had uploaded a lot of stock photos and apparent Web lifts alongside fantastic quality shots - jalopies and Rolls Royces!) - and furthermore, had uploaded a semi-naked picture (which has now been taken down) - what it LOOKED like was suspicious in the extreme.
Please note that I'm not attacking you personally, and I am not really doubting any more that you had good intentions - but I hope you at least understand what things looked like. Mabalu (talk) 10:11, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
WPK/Drawian did not have any history of copyright violation, but they violated COM:Overwrite so they should be reverted. I wish I could upload them separately but I don't know how appropriate that would be to do considering the user who created them can not consent. Fry1989eh?18:54, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
There are some tougher files that need a license review. Anyone willing to help reviewing them or willing giving his/her opinion? The files in question are:
Would it please be possible to look into why the image from the previous revision is still present at the top of this page and via this URL even though the revision itself is no longer listed? --Gazebo (talk) 15:36, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
Commons administrators your responsibilities do not lie to Commons alone
Hurricane in a teacup. This obvious attempt to flame war/start drama is neither constructive, nor is it actionable. Yes, there are obviously improvements to the system that should be made, but the manner in which they are being requested here runs counter to Commons' central aims and collegial atmosphere. That said, if you'd like to constructively propose improvements to the current system, please proceed to COM:RFC. -FASTILY21:26, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
The following discussion is archived. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
In yet another disappointing set of actions by Commons administrators, they have annotated files with a tag, and deleted thes files in less than a week from Commons, when these files are very clearly used at a Wikisource, and with no reference to the Wikisource.
As Commons is a central repository for all the wikis, it is incumbent on administrators here to stop acting in such a cavalier and inconsiderate manner. If a djvu or pdf file is to be deleted, at Commons, then the WSes need to have an opportunity to remove the associated transcriptions, if they need to be removed at all. If nothing else, you could look to broach the matter with the wiki in question. Commons administrators you have a crosswiki duty, so please do it. Don't just say it is too hard, or it doesn't matter, as that would be what I would call a shameful culture and reeks of lack of consideration. — billinghurstsDrewth03:27, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
I'm so sorry we've disappointed you, and failed to live up to your high standards Andrew. Strange that you refer to Commons admins as if you weren't one yourself. What file and what admins are you referring to (the cavalier and shameful admins mind you)? Commons:Administrators doesn't state that admins here have to cater to other projects (were busy as hell as it is), and our project scope goes far beyond just being a "central repository for all the wikis." We're a repository of free media that anyone can use, anywhere in the world. I think Commons admins, including humble old me, are doing a great job; we donate hours and hours of our time to this project and work hard at it. What's with the nasty attitude anyways? You need to show your fellow Commons admins a bit of respect, especially if you want any yourself. I don't know about other admins, but I'm a 40 year-old man, and I'm not going to be lectured to by anyone in the manner you've just attempted. INeverCry03:55, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
See Commons:Guide to adminship #1: "Unlike actions taken on most Wikimedia projects, actions taken on Commons have the potential to affect the entire Wikimedia community—hundreds of other wikis. This has implications for both file deletion and user interaction." :) Jee04:31, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
And that certainly sounds completely straight-forward and simple, until you consider how few active admins we have doing deletions. A very small number of admins are taking care of the vast majority of deletions right now (ask Jameslwoodward or Fastily, etc; we're talking about dedicated people, and to give them a hassle about a small number of errors or miscommunications is unhelpful and unfair. I think they deserve a bit better than what Andrew just posted above. "User interaction" goes both ways. Admins are volunteers who do their best, not lackeys to be browbeaten. The message above is discouraging and negative, not motivating. INeverCry08:23, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
@billinghurst, it would really have been more productive if you had linked/cited the files which you think have been deleted too hastily. This would allow us to look into it and possibly try to reflect on what might have went wrong. --Túrelio (talk) 07:57, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
I also love how he says "Commons administrators you have a crosswiki duty." Uhh, you're a Commons admin yourself bud, and you're not our boss or director either; you're a volunteer admin just like the other 250. And then the generous feeling of "Don't just say it is too hard," coming from an admin who doesn't exactly share the deletion burden. Perhaps Commons admins look like a bunch of lazy, reckless jackasses from up there at Mount Meta... INeverCry08:39, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
INC, please stay calm and take it as a self criticism, including him. On the other-side, I had seen several times the scream that "we only a few admins are taking all the loads, others just enjoying other business; just holding their admin right here for their on self-satisfaction." Why not trying for a practical solution for it? (Increase the minimum activity limit, force to face RfA again in every year or in every two year, etc.) We need quality/responsible admin actions; not quantity deletions of the crap uploads. Jee08:53, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
First, giving us all a blanket condemnation over uncited events is simply a waste of time and is one more event of the sort that gives us a high turnover rate in active Admins. In fact, Jee, I would say that the single most important thing we could do to get and keep more highly productive Admins is to eliminate unsupported blanket accusations such as this one. By all means, we should be called to the carpet when we err, but blanket condemnations just have me, and I am sure others, asking ourselves why we bother to work here.
Second, yes, Jee, we often say that we have too few people doing too much work. I don't know what to do about it. Several of us have proposed a variety of incremental solutions -- eliminate mobile uploads, make unused personal images {{Speedy}}, prevent IP users from creating new Gallery pages and others -- but none of them have gotten much traction. Of course, the real solution would be to clone Fastily, INC, Turelio, and a few others, but I don't know how to do that. . Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 10:29, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
Some years ago I remember there was a bot informing local projects about DRs of used files but apparantly no one bothered/volunteered to keep this alive. This is actually something the WMF could spend some money for, this would be an essential function.--Denniss (talk) 10:57, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
I am disappointed to see yet another attack at Commons Admins. Sure, things could be done better from time to time but that is not an excuse to write unproductive rants at this noticeboard. If you want to improve stuff don’t exaggerate it and come with a possible solution. Yelling that certain actions are disappointing without naming the action will only create turmoil and it won’t solve a dime. Why doesn’t Billinghurst start to educate people about our project scope and licensing policy at Wikisource for example? I don’t know if this is a proper solution since to less info is given. Sorry B, if you want to improve things than this is not the way to do so. Please refrain from unmellow behavior. Natuur12 (talk) 11:31, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
(ec) @INC I hardly would be forgetting that I am a Commons administrator. To the remainder of your commentary, I carry out my administrative actions here and at other wikis and try to do it fairly and diligently, so please don't deflect from the issue by trying to shoot or condemn the messenger. @Turelio I am not wanting to concentrate on the individuals, as my point is that Commons administrators by their actions are causing problems, and the general response by administrators is pretty much a shrug. Plus it is not the first time that I have brought this matter here. It doesn't matter which djvu/pdf file that is transcribed is deleted, it is simply problematic at the WS end. That the issue is in the control of Commons administrators where the processes undertaken are neither helpful to nor considerate of these sister wikis.
Every time a djvu or pdf file that is transcribed at a Wikisource is deleted, it causes significant issues to the transcription; and further that the file is deleted is unknown to the Wikisource community with the work scrubbed due to the nature of the connection between the file and the text. Often the works are just lacking some information, and that could have been remedied without deletion, other cases the files could have been transferred to English Wikisource where they fit within our licensing, and in a few cases there has had to be deletion processes undertaken at enWS. My reflection on works dealt with is that the requirement for deletion at enWS is usually not needed, and alternate remedies were available if contact had been made with the community. Is that not a concern to the administrators here?
This wiki is clearly acknowledged as the Commons and the preferred site for uploads; and as that central repository you should be looking up and out. One could characterise that the decisions are being made at the exclusion of these wikis. If administrators don't feel that they have a duty to those wikis, how in the hell can anyone recommend that we act as the central repository. If that is the case, do you wish that we go back to the old system of each wiki having its own files. If we are serious about a central repository, then a sympathetic approach and consideration, and vision out to the edges of the WMF wikisphere is needed from Commons administrators.
And I will give administrators here hassle if they always tend to deletion, right there and then. There is no requirement for an immediate deletion following a seven day period, where the files have been on site for 2+ years. Wikisources are not wikipedias where the images are illustrative to an article, these works are the basis for a transcription to which there can be many hundred pages of transcriptions, and up to hundreds of hours of work. These djvu/pdf files are completely integral to the WS work, and an evaluation by a single Commons administrator of less than a minute can completely neuter that work, to no display, and no notice. Now you tell me that an administrator here being busy and needing to get to the next deletion is seen as an adequate approach compared with making contact with the wiki, or someone from the wiki.
And yes, I am holding administrators to account for their decisions and their actions. But have I picked on any individual, or tried to name or shame, no. I am looking for a solution, and that is going to take a change of approach, and for that the challenge needs to be laid fair and square on the table. — billinghurstsDrewth12:37, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
@Natuur12. What? I provided a solution right there in my original post … If a djvu or pdf file is to be deleted, at Commons, then the WSes need to have an opportunity to remove the associated transcriptions, if they need to be removed at all. If nothing else, you could look to broach the matter with the wiki in question. The specific action o this occasion is not the crux of the matter, and just allows people to say it wasn't them, and to point the finger. This situation is representative of numbers of issues that I have individually addressed to admins and here on this noticeboard over the past few years and all to no apparent avail, and each time I have been nice, and I have been constructive and informative. With regard to "education" at enWS, as you simply are speaking out of your hat with no knowledge to what we do, or to what we fix. The vast bulk of our works are perfectly in order and curated, and where problem works are identified at our end, we come here and deal with the issues, either in fixes or deletions. — billinghurstsDrewth12:50, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
No, noooo. This is not even close to proposing a solution. You mention two problems:
You notice disappointed admin actions in general
Wikisource is not notified when an Commons admin is close to deleting a PDF or djvu file at Commons used at Wikisource. -> this is your actual problem.
Your first problem is nothing more than a rant and your second problem is motivated by the fact that hours of work can be lost at Wikisource. What you did is addressing different problems without suggesting a workable, sustainable solution. I know that you brought it as a solution but it’s not. The underlying problem you seem to address is that the way Admins deal with such deletions is not the way you want them to deal with those deletions.
Proposing a solution is something different. How do you notice Wikisource that files are being deleted? Maybe you can use a bot to leave a message at the local village pump when certain files are nominated for deletion.
And no, the solution I came up with is not me speaking out of my hat but that’s me brainstorming based on insufficient information to illustrate what happens when you approach people with not enough information. This is what you get when you write emotional coments instead of some high quility background info. Natuur12 (talk) 15:32, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
Actually Natuur12, you did not read what I wrote if that is your interpretation. I noted my disappointment of the actions of two administrators, it was not in general, I just did not point to the specific edits and deletions. To the rest, stop picking on me and my apparent bad manners; look at the history of this manner, the attempts that have been made by me here, and on admin talk pages. Your synopsis is wrong, as it is selective. This is not my first attempt, just my most provocative. I understand that some have taken umbrage at the provocation, but let me say that it is less provocative then the ugly and unnecessary deletion of works (again), and the attempted process of recovery, and the seeming lack of care factor exhibited here. — billinghurstsDrewth16:58, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
In yet another disappointing set of actions by Commons administrators, they have annotated files with a tag, and deleted thes files in less than a week from Commons, when these files are very clearly used at a Wikisource, and with no reference to the Wikisource. is what you said. How can someone not read this as a general statement? And I am not picking on you but I did tell you the thruth if you like it or not. Provoking and creating drama is never the right way to deal with problems, a thing an admin and steward should know. If you are here to reach a solution I am willing to help but not like this. Natuur12 (talk) 17:11, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
@billinghurst, when asking for links of the deleted files, my intent wasn't to pick on individuals (admins), but to be able to understand what and why it went wrong. Without having that information, how should we prescribe a remedy? --Túrelio (talk) 12:48, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
(ec)@Túrelio. As I said this is about the deletion of WS-linked djvu/pdf files with the recent case just being another example of the problems. But as an example … an admin posted {{No permission since}} on a work that had been on site for over two years, seven days later another administrator deleted the djvu file. This file that I investigated (randomly picked one of 14) had previously been through a DR and had been kept. The work was 42MB, and I can see 40 add pages of this multilingual document at English Wikisource in Page: ns, and the main ns work is not visible due to the deletion, and of course disappears from the indexing. There is more that should have been picked up for this work by either administrator which compounds the general deletion issue, outside of the general problems that it creates to tidy up. — billinghurstsDrewth13:18, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
@billinghurst: "But have I picked on any individual, or tried to name or shame, no. I am looking for a solution, and that is going to take a change of approach, and for that the challenge needs to be laid fair and square on the table." Good; and this is AN not ANU. But your initial comment was not enough for us to understand the real issue in full depth. Now you described the whole matter and I suggest all of us to forget the initial misunderstanding and try for a solution. Jee13:04, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
What could be done?
Now, lets stop the non-productive emotions and try to get things optimized.
A) Diagnosis: Were existing procedures and policies properly followed?
One example is File:MALAYSIA BILL RHODESIA AND NYASALAND BILL (2) (Hansard, 11 Juli 1963).djvu
Chain of events: 1) Template PD-UK-EdictGov claimed as invalid (August 3) and deleted (August 11)[2]; 2) All PD-UK-EdictGov-licensed media tagged with no-permission (August 11) and deleted (August 19).
IMO possibly sub-optimal steps:
1) Uploader hadn't edited since April 2; thereby unlikely able to comment at the template deletion discussion.
2) Uploader was NOT notified about the no-permission-tagging of his uploads.[3]
3) Uploader was notified about file deletions only after the deletions had been performed.[4]
However, even optimal notification of the uploader wouldn't have changed anything in this case, as he was no longer present at Commons.
B) Solution for notification problem on WikiSource
1) Denniss mentioned a "bot informing local projects about DRs of used files". I've also a vague memory of such a bot. Does anybody remember its name or site?
2) In July this year, MediaWiki-developer Magnus Manske presented ExCommons, a Javascript-tool that claims to target a similar problem.[5] When you have inserted it into your common.js and have authorized OAuth file upload, after the 1st deletion-click it shows a list of projects that use the to-be-deleted file and — in a second step — will attempt to copy the file to the local projects. However, Magnus himself found that MediaWiki will not let you upload a file locally if the file exists on Commons, unless you are an admin on the local wiki. Despite of its current shortcomings this tools might eventually be tweaked to either be used for notification or for transfer of the to-be-deleted file to WikiSource. --Túrelio (talk) 20:20, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
Hi all. Not sure where this goes because I'm not familiar with how WebM videos work, but File:Mark Twain at Stormfield (1909).webm when viewed from Wikipedia has inappropriate captions. It was reported to OTRS and I can confirm that the captions look like they've been vandalized, but I have absolutely no idea how to fix them or even where they live. §FreeRangeFrogcroak02:26, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
Inactivity run for August-September 2014 has ended
Hi! The inactivity run for August-September 2014 has now ended. One administrator has resigned their access during the run, and four have been desysopped today on Meta due to inactivity. @Steinsplitter already thanked each and every one of the users on their talk pages, but please join me here in thanking @Bdk, @Gmaxwell, @Heb, @Rüdiger Wölk, @Sfu and @Zscout370 for their involvement as admins and for their excellent service to our community over the years. Thank you all, and here's to hope we'll see you active again soon! odder (talk) 08:45, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
It makes no sense for him to still be a CU. He can't block socks, he can't see deleted files/pages to investigate possible sock behavior, he can't protect sock target pages, etc. INeverCry20:07, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
For security reasons, I do not support having inactive CheckUsers. That said, there is no Commons Policy regarding the activity levels of CheckUsers or Oversighters. I say that we just wait until October 14th, 2014. Tiptoetytalk02:08, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
There should be a WMF policy that CUs/OSs/'crats have to be admins. That there isn't one is an obvious oversight. None of these advanced rights can be fully made use of without admin tools. INeverCry02:27, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
It is up to the individual projects to make these rules. Hard to believe Commons is asking WMF to make rules for us! RichFarmbrough, 19:48 15 September 2014 (GMT).
Tiptoey, this editor has been active on WMF sites within the past week or so, and since its SUL, I'm not sure that your worries should be serious. I agree that 14 October is pretty near and no action is needed. RichFarmbrough, 19:48 15 September 2014 (GMT).
If an A/CU is inactive as Admin he's most likely also inactive as CU, if he's active as CU but does not perform Admin actions he should be excempted from A inactive runs. I agree a CU should always be Admin or he might be restricted in his CU work.--Denniss (talk) 08:53, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
True, but as it stands now the definition of "inactive" is different for the two roles, which brought us to the present situation. If the required activity period for the two roles were the same, we wouldn't be discussing this.
I don't see how a CU can be active without using Admin powers, unless all of his or her CU checks turn up false. My experience says that's very unlikely. . Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 10:14, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
We don't have a local or global policy that prohibits users to hold CU or OS rights without being an admin at the same time. It's also very unlikely a global policy will be accepted as there are some projects which allow users to apply for CU or OS rights. For example nlWP and frWP have CUs w/h admin and trWP has an OS w/h admin. (Though I also remember that enWP wanted to appoint a non-admin as OS but concluded that it's not possible to use all OS options w/h being an admin.) The projects with CUs who are not admins at the same time have their permissions changed so that these CUs have the ability to see deleted edits (see frWP, nlWP and bugzilla:20775). Their role is also different than here in the sense that they only perform the checks on request and then let local admins decide whether a block is useful or not. I do agree though that if we believe only admins can be checkusers, an RFC should be created in order to add a sentence to our policy. To prevent cases like this in the future. I wouldn't mind a more stricter inactivity rule either (and maybe it's useful to combine both the CU activity and edits?). Just my 2c. Trijnsteltalk10:44, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
One of the three deWP checkusers (Filzstift) isn't elected admin afaik, but has received technical admin flag due to being CU. There was/is same practice with non-sysop arbcom members. --A.Savin11:04, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
While I can envision scenarios in which a non-admin CU would not be entirely useless (e.g., assistance analyzing/interpreting data; updating, copyediting, managing the CU wiki; etc.), I nevertheless think the two permissions need to go hand in hand. I suspect it hasn't been explicitly codified because it is common sense and an implicit expectation. Simply, if you're not active enough to retain even the admin flag (especially with the activity requirements being as low as they are), you ought not to be considered active enough for a CU flag. I agree with Trijnstel, if I understand her correctly, that there is sense in "advanced" permissions having "advanced" activity requirements. Эlcobbolatalk14:44, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
Maybe it would make more sense to simply change the inactive definitions on the two policies to support one another, for example "...and also has met the inactivity criteria for other advanced roles which typically also use administrator rights." RichFarmbrough, 19:45 15 September 2014 (GMT).
I have received a e-mail from Gmaxwell, he can only access the internet via tor right now and therefore he is completely blocked. I added torunblock to his account and given him a link to this discussion. --Steinsplitter (talk) 11:28, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
COM:DESYSOP states that "inactive Commons administrators (including those holding bureaucrat, checkuser and oversighter privileges) will have their rights removed." Does the bold part mean that also bureaucrat, checkuser and oversigher rights are to be removed when sysop rights are removed? If not, then I think that we should modify Commons policy to say so, or modify group rights per the Dutch Wikipedia example. --Stefan4 (talk) 16:51, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
Some lines above A.Savin told about dewiki. It's right, we have several non-elected admins, most of which are "arbcom-admins", one "CU-admin". All of them are active and got their admin rights only to fulfill their special jobs. The case of de:Benutzer:Filzstift is somehow different to user:Gmaxwell. First was elected admin but resigned his admin role, so he's admin just for CU reasons. Second is inactive, as admin as well as CU. His enhanced CU rights should be removed as well! a×pdeHello!16:44, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
The bot User:CommonsDelinker has renamed here an image in the Voting booth article, Booths.png to Booths.gif, but the images are quite different, one a view of voting booths in the Paris Bar Association, the other the word "Booths", presumably someone's logo. If I revert the bot will come along and do it again someday. --BalCoder
(Edit conflict) :It is because a file with same name in local wiki exists. We prefer renaming the local file; but I did it here now because the file here is very recent. Jee10:12, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
There is a similar bug when files are deleted. If an image is deleted on Commons, the bot goes around and removes all files with that name from all projects, even if some project has a local image with the same name. Is there a bug report for that somewhere? I can't find any. --Stefan4 (talk) 22:36, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
The following discussion is archived. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
Dear Admins,
I noticed that someone filed a DR on this image here
Then I saw that the same original uploader of the image under DR (Harvey Kim) uploaded many new images within 7-10 days of today to Commons. But after the uploaded images were passed by flickrreview , the photo on the flickrlink source is deleted. Is this is case of a user trying to insert flickrwashing images into Commons? I don't know. If it is, all these images should be deleted and the uploader should be blocked ASAP. I have to sign off now as its past 1 AM here where I am. Best, --Leoboudv (talk) 08:34, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
This is one troubling example by the uploader where the flickrlink is now dead even though the image was uploaded to Commons less than 1 week ago. No one can tell if this uploader is really Harvey K on flickr...or not. I can't even tell if the deleted flickr photos come from this flickr user's account. Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 08:37, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for your help here Admin Geagea. Its unfortunate that some users deliberately steal other people's images and place them on Commons with a different flickr account. This user had to be blocked here as this was intentional. Kind Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 18:16, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
With File:Lisboa (P), 2011, Arraial_Pride_2011. (6236745301).jpg, I've made rename requests to the file in order to alleviate the situation, but its uploader User:Tm has reverted my rename requests twice[6][7] (the second revert description seems rather condescending, because my connection is fine). After the first rename request was reverted, I found out that the culprit was NoScript, which was sanitising parentheses out of file URLs as described here, as I couldn't properly access it. And after the second revert to a rename request (I won't try further) I discovered the file not appearing in a category until after I login problem. Furthermore, that Lisboa file belongs to a collection of photos that were from a bad Flickr stream, as discovered in a Commons deletion request of a similar file in November 2013 at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Lisboa (P), 2011, Arraial Pride 2011. (6236744605).jpg.
Turns out that when accessing the category with a smartphone, then all files in the category do display, both in Android browser and Firefox Mobile. When using the Firefox desktop browser (latest version), I coudn't see some files in the category, and then after I logged into Commons with that browser and logged out, I could see the thumbnails in the category. Same with an older version of SeaMonkey. Yet when accessing the category with Lynx (without logging in), the category does not list the files. Very strange. -Mardus (talk) 22:38, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
404 error
I created an account, the link in my e-mail took me to a sign in page, logged in, but then there is a 404 error for that page. Not sure if my confirmation is complete or not now. Thanks, TacomaTalks@hotmail.com.
Done Files nuked, user warned. I can't see why an admin (JuTa) would tag files with "no permission" when the uploader indicates "source=internet/author=don't know". Just speedy them as obvious copyvios. INeverCry23:37, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
They were tagged as no license btw. As explained here I'm using visual file exchange to tag files within subcategories of Category:Media uploaded without a license. I don't see the file description pages doing that. Recently I paused with it for a bout a week, and there were about 800 of them nobody else yet marked as cpvio or else. Feel free to be quicker than me and check all those files individualy and mark them accordingly. According my guess you'll need about 2-3 hours a day. regards. --JuTa07:24, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
My concern is that tagging an obvious copyvio as no license or no permission allows it to sit on Commons for atleast a week, while it should be deleted much sooner. It also allows copyvio uploaders to upload more copyvios because they're not warned and/or blocked quickly enough. In the end, we need more editors/admins helping to tag/delete copyvios, etc. INeverCry18:36, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
Please Delete the images as I do not want them displayed by tomorrow please because I had many complaints from a lot of people concerning the number plates regarding that the cars may be stolen and the quality of the photos are either poor or not useful.
I find the "may be stolen" idea to be rather dubious. Could one not just go out on the street and look at a number plate and get the same information? As for general deletion, when you uploaded these you released them under a free licence. That means that anyone can use them for any purpose, and you cannot revoke the licence. -mattbuck (Talk) 09:50, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
Those images, which did indeed fulfil the nominator's deletion-rationale, have been deleted already (except File:Honda CR-V in Malaysia.jpg due to an ongoing DR). I am all for courtesy, but it shouldn't be stretched without necessity. The images of the train and the public bus had been uploaded in April and May. --Túrelio (talk) 07:27, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
These images should not have been deleted. The user in question has had a tantrum because I removed the said images from various Wikipedia articles on the grounds of low quality, for which Nim did not appreciate. We use the best quality images at Wikipedia, and there is no reason for Nim's image to be used in an article when a higher quality image is available (unless it happens to be the best quality in a particular instance). OSX (talk • contributions) 13:22, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
It looks like the WMF recently deployed HHVM, a page-load optimizing engine, as a beta feature to WMF wikis, available to activate in your preferences. Check the box, hit save, and watch page load times go down :) Cheers, FASTILY22:22, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
That's right I reverted! You two are breaking the file from it's counterparts, altering both it's colours and it's actual construction replacing the Emblem of the Republic of China with the Emblem of the Kuomintang Party, and that certainly falls under COM:Overwrite. I dispute your change and the accuracy of the source provided. Fry1989eh?03:24, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
From what I have read, the Chinese Taipei Olympic Committee page only specify the color code, which is reflected in Akira123's version. However, it does not specify anything about the emblem other than the vague "it should look like this". I think the color change may be necessary. -Mys_721tx (talk) 04:12, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
Akira123 vote rigging
The choice of language that Akira123 has chosen to use on the talk pages of thesethreeusers, specifically "could you help......stop Fry1989 insist on the incorrect version?" looks like a pretty good case of vote rigging in an attempt to form a false consensus to me. I therefore hold any such consensus on the talk page in contempt. Fry1989eh?03:36, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
Since you cannot read Chinese, and TPENOC's official website only uses Chinese, I requested those admins to explain what written on the website. Besides, do you forget what you said on your own talk page---the information cited from the official source is prior to any consensus on Wiki Commons? --Akira123 (talk) 04:08, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
That depends on the quality of the source. The one provided has a highly distorted image, and replacing the Emblem of the ROC with the Kuomintang Party emblem is extremely suspect. Fry1989eh?04:26, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
I don't have to provide any source, it's a very obvious question. The Chinese Taipei Olympic Committee and the team that uses that banner at the Olympics represents the Republic of China and not the Kuomintang political party. Since the differences between the two are easily documented, it is a valid question the accuracy of the source provided. Fry1989eh?04:49, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
According to the official source, the image you think inaccurate is the only one IOC recognizes. Obviously, what IOC recognizes is highly prior to what you think.--Akira123 (talk) 05:00, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
I also said that the image is distorted. It would be nice if you could provide an official construction sheet and not an image which may or may not be inaccurate and which I believe is inaccurate for several reasons. Fry1989eh?05:03, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
Well, recently because of 2014 Asian Games, some Taiwanese media reported the issue of Blue Sky & White Sun on the emblem and flag of TPENOC too. I called it to consult the specification of the emblem and flag, and a clerk reply that they cannot answer until the authorized officer comes back Taiwan after the Games. I believe there will be a clear solution soon. --Akira123 (talk) 08:37, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
Gmaxwell
I see this discussion is already archived; without Gmaxwell commenting. What do we do now? Open an RfC? Changing the policy without an RfC per what was initially meant? And what do we do with Gmaxwell? Do we also need an RfC or a de-RfCU to remove his CU rights? ('cause I think there is consensus here regarding the removal of those rights) In any case, something needs to happen. And we shouldn't wait for months again. (Ideally Gmaxwell should resign himselves imho.) Trijnsteltalk13:34, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
I think we should keep this topic open for a while and, if there are no strong objections, apply to stewards for removal of the flag.--Ymblanter (talk) 14:35, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
In the discussion, Jim said Gmaxwell would lose the CU flag on October 14 automatically due to 1 year of inactivity as CU. INeverCry03:21, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
While Gmaxwell may have not been active as a CU, he has still been editing. I do not think that we nee to rush into removing his CU permission for security reasons. Let's just wait until October 14 like was mentioned numerous times in the 1st thread. Tiptoetytalk04:24, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
It is only two weeks and a half until 14 October. I think that we can just wait until that date and then request removal for inactivity. --Stefan4 (talk) 13:45, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
The way that I read the m:CU policy, it is 1 year of complete inactivity - no edits and no logged actions. I think the CU policy should be changed, but as for now that's how I read it. --Rschen775418:35, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
Yes, plenty. Due to the large amount of problems he caused two years ago (see also User talk:Fæ/Pieter Kuiper), I'm not in favor of unblocking him without an RfC or something so that the community can give their opinion. How did you come up with this btw? Did he ask you to unblock him? Trijnsteltalk23:05, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
Yes, and I Oppose an unblock. I noticed the removal of {{Sockpuppeteer}} from his userpage. My tagging of him as a sockpuppeteer on his userpage was backed up by an RFCU, and yet he called it "libellous" again just 4 hours ago. He's a confrontational, disruptive individual who can't work with others in a collegial way for any considerable length of time. I've never seen an unblock request from him, which I would oppose, unless he changes his usual tune pretty quickly. He himself wouldn't be able to participate in an RFC or at any other venue but his talk, and so if he wants to be unblocked he should do it the proper way according to blocking policy which is an unblock request, where he can state how he's going to change the negative behavior that led to the block. INeverCry01:19, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
Oppose Pieter Kuiper is a long-time disruptive user who has tested the community's patience with his antics. To make matters worse, he has repeatedly used various IPs to sockpuppet around the block on his main account. -FASTILY01:56, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
Oppose Pieter was hard working and a major contributor to Commons. He has a wonderful ability to ferret out facts about people and images that was very useful. He is also all of what is said above -- a major disruptive influence -- far more trouble than his good work is worth. . Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 09:49, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
Oppose - Pretty much what Jim said - he could at times be a good contributor, but more often than not he just wanted to provoke people. For once I agree with Jimbo, who said at Wikimania that if a good contributor is also disruptive, we should politely ask them to leave. -mattbuck (Talk) 12:18, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
Comment - Thanks for the inputs. I remembered him mainly as the hard working user who sorted out a lot of things, but I also realize that I was absent at the time that he got blocked. - Jcb (talk) 16:03, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
Oppose He created an incredibly hostile environment; I have little doubt he'll start right back in the moment he was unblocked. He was incredibly good at manipulating the system as well. You'd lose far more good contributors than his work could ever justify. Adam Cuerden (talk) 09:12, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
Everyone have accidents with every undeletion? Unfortunately, it does not answer my question, especially not its second part... --A.Savin20:17, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
The category page never existed, so there is nothing to delete. I have removed the category formatting from the editor's text and there shouldn't be any more to do than that. Regards, Ed (Edgar181) 17:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
I have overridden the image I just uploaded but I need the original file scrubbed so the plate numbers are not in the history. Didn't realize the numbers were visible.--Amadscientist (talk) 21:00, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
I suppose I didn't need to blur the Fire truck's plate but I was just being cautious there, the image of the mini van however shows enough to be concerned I think.--Amadscientist (talk) 21:02, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
Not being disruptive or anything however I would highly recommend blurring the No. Plate in case then a user who might be a thief may steal the car and then you cannot find it.
EurovisionNim 08:39, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
If anyone wants to do that, that is fine. I can't now. For some reason, with my new name, I cannot override any of my old images (may be an edit count issue with the "new" account. I just tried with the BP Oil fire image to do some more cloning clean up and It says I cannot override the image so I checked this as well and its the same issue.--Mark Miller (talk) 23:24, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
Could you kindly please delete the following images because they are at a very low quality standard. I would like them deleted by tommorrow.
Thanks,
EurovisionNim 08:08, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
Edit request
Can I get an admin to address this longstanding edit request? Or at least unprotect it so it can be addressed by a non-admin if no admins have time? --Elvey (talk) 02:29, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
Presently my user page is stuck at User:Anjwalker. I changed usernames ages ago, and my talk and user pages were moved long ago on the other wikimedia projects I use but I didn't notice until now it isn't fixed here. So I tried to just move my page to User:JTdale and the system gave me a warning about it being potentially abusive and if I was sure to try again, so I did, and I got another message which says I've had all page moving powers removed from my account. I have no clue where to raise this issue, so I hope this isn't the wrong page. Thanks, JTdaleTalk15:19, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
Could you delete this flickr image because a file that the uploader used was Noncommercial (NC) and when you saw a pic I uploaded saying all rights reserved it was not allowed but when I read through I saw that commons does not accept Noncommercial (NC) and No Derative works when I looked through I saw it had those. Could an administrator please review the link above.
Regards
EurovisionNim 01:28, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
When the file was uploaded from Flickr to Commons, (24 Nov 2008) its license on Flickr was just CC-BY-2.0 (without the Noncommercial clause). And as the license was/is irrevocable, we consider it still valid for the uploaded file. The fact, that the Flickr user changed their mind, no longer offers this license and offers only the CC-BY-NC-ND license does not inflict the license offered to the commons uploader in any way. Ankry (talk) 01:53, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
Could you please delete this image as it is not needed because I removed it from my camera. I would like it deleted by tonight 11:59am Perth Time
Thanks so much,
EurovisionNim 03:14, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
It's been deleted, but please in the future do not expect courtesy deletions to happen consistently, not to mention giving a deadline to do it. - Jmabel ! talk15:51, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
Thank You. Unfortunately, I could not find who created the statue but it looks like modern art at first glance. Yes, the artist died in 2002. Perhaps one day Georgia will change its laws like Armenia but not now sadly. Kind Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 01:51, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
Could you please delete this picture because when I placed a speedydelete request it did not succumb to my request. I need it deleted by tonight if you can.
Can you please not. I only wanted the pic deleted as it is not really a worthy image. If you want me to stop I will
EurovisionNim 11:05, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
This is the last warning: If you remove again a section from AN or if you play again with deletion requests you will be blocked. --Steinsplitter (talk) 11:07, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
Ok i'm sorry I will leave it alone
EurovisionNim 11:23, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
Left a friendly note on EurovisionNim's talk page. Honestly this user just seems a little misguided. Hopefully this won't be a problem in the future. Regards, FASTILY18:55, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
On a related note, I just discovered that there is an account EurovisionNim2. It doesn't have any contributions yet so I wouldn't call that sockpuppetry but I think these two should at least be linked. De728631 (talk) 19:57, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
PD-Art and The PCF
Hello. It seems that The PCF does not agree with our PD-Art policy. The PCF claims to own the copyright on these pictures:
"According to British law", the PCF is not right. If they wish to establish a legal case, they would be welcome to do so. Until that time, the law in the UK supports the view that no new copyright can be made by the faithful reproduction of two dimensional public domain works. Refer to the many, many, discussions on the copyright noticeboard and the associated lack of any UK law that definitively supports sweat of the brow blaggery. --Fæ (talk) 08:43, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
The view by C&SJ was given back in 2010, in the 4 years since then UK Gov has done a lot with open licensing for both government agents and the education sector. In this climate of avoiding overly restrictive copyright, it would be far more likely for a UK court to find against a claim of creativity when faithfully reproducing 2D PD material, certainly a claim of damages would be unlikely to get anywhere. Personally, I would welcome such a case, as the law remains non-existent but the ambiguity is a blight against open knowledge in the UK as institutions repeatedly bluff their way into getting material taken down. The guidelines for PD-Art should be revisited, I think the bold statement made should be adapted to reflect the absence of anyone ever being awarded damages, or judged to have a legitimate claim of copyright in this scenario. The risk for the good faith re-user or up-loader remains vanishingly small, and in the case of an anonymous up-loader or one not residing in the UK, no risk whatsoever... --Fæ (talk) 19:26, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
I do not feel that Wilfredo R. Rodríguez [User:The Photographer] is qualified to judge my experimental digital photography work which he has nominated for mass deletion. He has nominated over 100 of my files, about two-thirds of my work at commons.wikimedia.org.
Here is what he wrote in his mass deletion nomination.
"Low quality image (blured [.sic], motion blur, oversatured [.sic], out of focus), personal experiment. A selfpublication [.sic] of a not important book in Amazon is really easy. I agree with the few comments received your book, mostly negative. The first comment of your book in Amazon. It is likely to become the next Picazzo [.sic], however, until that happens, this should be deleted. I am sorry -- H.
His nomination shows a lack of photographic knowledge, a person who did not check their facts and a sarcastic flippant tone none of which is appropriate in a deletion nomination. His nomination is full of spelling errors, errors that are flagged on commons.wikimedia when he posts his nomination. In addition his English is not at the advanced level as he has claimed, but is barely comprehensible. I am not sure what "It is likely to become the next Picazzo [.sic], however, until that happens, this should be deleted." means, for example.
1. My photos are *not out of focus* they involve camera and subject movement, often at extreme;y slow handheld shutter speeds. A knowledgeable photographer should know the difference between out of focus and camera and subject movement.
2. He claimed that my book, Experimental Digital Photography, was self published, even though the Amazon page he was referencing clearly stated that it was published as part of the Lark Book series by PIXIQ (formerly Sterling Publishing). Then he jumped to the conclusion that because he thought it was self published it was not important, nor was any of my work. BTW my book sold out in its first printing of 5000 copies and is in over 240 libraries including 40 college libraries worldwide.
3. My book, Experimental Digital Photography, Pixiq, New York/London, 2010 was not just available on Amazon but at dozens bookstores around the world.
4. Saying doing such a book was easy, shows a lack of respect. My book is based on about 15 years of work and nine months of writing, editing and proofing.
3. Calling my work not important is an opinion and not a reason for deletion. It is clear to me that he does not like Experimental Digital Photography, my area of expertise for the last 15 years -- as I am considered one of the leading experts in this field. But his like or dislike should have nothing to do with this nomination.
4. He ignored a number of other quite positive, in fact glowing, reviews from professional photographers and instead highlighted a negative review from an amateur reader. If he is going to be fair he needs to read more than one comment as a number of people, especially professionals and teachers, liked this book quite a bit.
Here are the professional reviews on the same Amazon page, reviews that were verified by Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/Experimental-Digital-Photography-Lark-Book/dp/1600595170/ref=cm_rdp_product_img
== Outlines how to express yourself through experimental photography. I like the hands-on exercises - great way to experience the information and techniques taught through this book. Extremely well done! --thereviewsource.net -- review by Thomas Nelson
== Doble, a photographer for more than 40 years, throws out the rule book and teaches techniques that foster expressive, experimental images. ---- libraryjournal.com -- by Daniel Lombardo
== Filled with stunning images...the book is a feast for the eyes and so can be both read as a book and flicked through for inspiration at other times when you are feeling creatively constipated. Wayne Cosshall, Digital ImageMaker. --dimagemaker.com
5. Adding at the end, "I am sorry." in a flippant and condescending manner speaks of an arrogance and a lack of respect for my work.
I am the photographer. There is a man on the photo who protested against this photo. A new version with a new filename is already uploaded. Please delete this photo ! Thank you. --Uwca (talk) 17:38, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
The system did not allow me to create the bad category, for a robot attend the 151 files. I require a Administrator advised.--Allforrous 12:02, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
File:E3 2011 - Chun-Li poses at the Street Fighter X Tekken booth (Capcom).jpg - hide previous revision
It is currently in use. When you have removed the images it contains, just add {{delete|empty cat}} in the category page. Regards, Yann (talk) 22:14, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
User has uploaded files from TV show as “own-work”.
Please check the files uploaded by Nhausman22. They're almost only from TV shows (that I don't know) and apparently have been uploaded without regard to free (as in freedom) licensing. Regards. Mario Castelán Castro (talk) 02:00, 16 October 2014 (UTC).
File:Alka Seltzer in water.JPG - hide previous revision?
A cropped version of the File:Alka Seltzer in water.JPG image has been uploaded to avoid any copyright issues with packaging that was shown in the previous version. Would it please be possible for someone to consider hiding the previous revision? Thanks. --Gazebo (talk) 05:20, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
I failed this image as its NC at the source but I notice it is cropped from a source image where someone typed in an OTRS permission ticket and says it was done with matanya's permission. Matanya did not type in the ticket himself. I don't know who is right but I have to sign off as its past 1 AM here. Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 08:17, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
Please update the following watchlist message (“New watchlist message (2014-10-05)” topic). The request is already for two weeks and it's still not done :( Thank you. --Brateevsky {talk} 14:37, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
Mozambique law on FOP is uncertain and seems to be in a state of change. So I don't know if this image can be kept or deleted. Kind Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 22:04, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
An admin may wish to check this user's uploads. Looks like a bunch of out of scope nationalistic stuff, and the copyright is probably under question for many of the images. Fry1989eh?22:22, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
Jerago con Orago, Italian Republic, 22 ottobre 2014
Spettabili amministratori
con la presente comunico la presenza di diversi errori nel file-immagine menzionato in campo oggetto. Mi riferisco:
Alla Repubblica di Slovenia (Republika Slovenija) e alla Repubblica di Croazia (Republika Hrvatska), che hanno una forma di governo semipresidenziale, non parlamentare.
Alla Malesia (Malaysia), di cui una parte è stata inglobata nel Regno di Thailandia (Ratcha Anachak Thai): la prima è una monarchia parlamentare, la seconda una dittatura militare.
in attesa di una vostra risposta sulla possibilita di correggere il documento, mando cordiali saluti
I cannot do that without admin help: the first step (move/rename without altering all its usages) would work fine; it will also be possible to exstinguish the automatic generated CommonsDelinker-RenameRequest; but when I try to upload the new file with the name of the old file (after the move/rename this old file name is redirecting to the renamed file), the msg occurs "Upload error:A file with this name exists already in the shared file repository. If you still want to upload your file, please go back and use a new name." But I want that all file usages everywhere get the 'new' file instead being redirected to the renamed 'old' file'.
Therefore I ask an administrator to help me with this action. sarang♥사랑17:38, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
I had this problem too, but all you have to do is edit the redirect, replacing it with the new description, but in this case I do not see why you would want to save the old version as a separate file. Delphi234 (talk) 11:23, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
After nominating for deletion numerous 2014 WLM uploads of modern Ukrainian monuments (and many from earlier WLMs), I've considered the need for a warning of some kind during WLM, on Commons and on wikis of countries with FoP restrictions and/or no FoP, telling uploaders to upload modern images locally if possible, and only images of older PD monuments to Commons. Otherwise we end up alienating uploaders when their uploads are tagged and deleted for "no FoP", and flooding Commons with FoP copyvios. Thoughts and ideas? INeverCry22:19, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
They have all being copied from sites / blogs. User assures that "The author has granted permission to the uploader for this work to be licenced as CC-BY-SA 4". Is this accceptable or should we expect a declaration from the owner of copyright to permissions@wikimedia.org? --FocalPoint (talk) 20:45, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
Please revert, revdel and protect (or block accounts) all (except the lead one) of the Katy Perry images used in the en.wiki article. They've been replaced with leaked nude images of Jennifer Lawrence. Already seeing reports on the OTRS Vandalism queue. §FreeRangeFrogcroak22:53, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
@Mattbuck: Thanks for vigilant housekeeping on this stuff, it has been helping to avoid it getting blown out of proportion here and elsewhere. --Fæ (talk) 08:24, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
The first I'm aware of with this Saabelms. Just because I was watching new uploads I could prevent further damage from these first two accounts, blocking them within some minutes. Others were on watch for the second group, blocking them within 15 minutes. The last one may have done some more damage, being active for 45 minutes. I suspect we'll see more of them in the near future so a periodical sleeper check may be justified (if that kind of fishing for bad guys is possible on newly created accounts). --Denniss (talk) 10:28, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
I uploaded two enormous (21,591 x 4,208) copies of File:Valley View Glades CA-20141024-A.jpg before realizing that I had not downsized the image before uploading, and that that was the reason it was not rendering. I uploaded a third, downsized copy that works just fine with the site's software.
Is it possible to have the first two versions of this file removed? They're taking up close to 40 MB of space unnecessarily. That's not much in the grand scheme of things, but it seems a reasonable thing to ask. Thanks. --Kbh3rdtalk03:00, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
Kbh3rd (talk·contribs), even if we deleted the file from public view it would still be there. There are three levels of deletion on wikimedia wikis: first there's the deletion we perform every day at deletion requests and the like. However all this really does is hides the file from public view - any administrator can go back and look at them. Second there's oversighting - this hides things from everyone except oversighters (and stewards?), but again it doesn't actually delete the file. The third and final form of deletion is actual removal of the file from the hard drives. This can only be done by WMF staff, and is very rarely used - it's mainly for removing illegal material or for DMCA takedowns.
The point is, deleting the files will not actually delete them, and please, don't worry about how much space we have on our servers. I have in fact restored this image to the second version, as while this doesn't generate a thumbnail as it should it's still preferable to have the best version available first. -mattbuck (Talk) 08:34, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
What's the use if there's no picture here? Okay, I understand about deletion, and I appreciate the potential value of having the highest available version available in an archive. But I do not see any value in having a file here that will not work with the Wikimedia software. There should be a thumbnail to the right, but that's broken by reverting to the higher resolution file. --Kbh3rdtalk17:34, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
We actually have numerous files which are in the region of hundreds of megabytes, and quite a few over 1 Gig. See this list for the largest ones. For example many tifs uploaded by Fae suffer from similar problems including a couple of times when he broke the servers I think, but we appreciate the uploads anyway. Green Giant (talk)20:43, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
Why not simply upload a low resolution version of the file as a thumbnail then link it to the main file page? One then has the best of both worlds. --Fred the Oyster (talk) 21:08, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
Could you please change this name - from antique to modern version?
(formerly the name really was with an s.)
Kind regards, grazie mille, Hansmuller (talk) 15:00, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
Can as Admin close this DR as a keep or delete by determining if this image is the flickr account owner's own work? Someone stated that there are many such images like this in the flickr account owner's photostream but other images are also derivatives so I don't know what is the situation here. Please keep or delete this image...if you can. Thank You.
PS: I find it strange that the uploader suddenly appears and uploads an image from a potentially problematic flickr account--if Admin Zelenko is correct in a referenced DR--after 2 years but he remembers to remove a previous copyvio notice. But perhaps the image is own work? Best, --Leoboudv (talk) 00:22, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
Template:Autotranslate instead of No-permission notice
It appears that this page was nominated for deletion by mistake as a copy of a category. Someone should consider seeing if this DR is appropriate. DLindsley (talk) 23:04, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
File:Old American Cherry Bombs Cherry-bombs.png and File:2.5 Inch Titanium Salute Shell (Aerial Device).jpg - remove previous revisions?
For the following two files, cropped versions have been uploaded to avoid any copyright issues with packaging depicted in the images. Would it please be possible to consider hiding the previous revisions?
collapsed because issue resolved and the edit Stefan4 urges will make the section rather nonsensical once I do it
[[en:Memento Project]], that is, "[[en:Memento Project]]" shows up for me as nothing. Can someone reproduce this bug?--Elvey (talk) 00:22, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
Interestingly, [[en:Memento Project]], that is, "[[en:Memento Project]]" DOES WORK in some cases: [[11]] here, the Author displays correctly in the description column, but here it does not, even though it's the same page, and hence the same wikicode underneath.--Elvey (talk) 19:28, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
CONFIRMED in Archive.today's browser, so it's not my browser or cache. (Off topic: what's up with archive.today displaying inline images behind links using "background-image: url(data:image/png;base64,... when the original HTML has no background-image"?) --Elvey (talk) 19:52, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
Please don't use [[en:Memento Project]]. The link then shows up as an interwiki link in the sidebar and removes the usual interwiki link from Wikidata. Apart from making your message difficult to read, it removes a link to English Wikipedia's w:WP:AN from the sidebar which some people may be looking for. [[en:Memento Project]] works fine on pages in talk namespaces, though. --Stefan4 (talk) 19:54, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
Don't use it on this page, you mean? Wow, that's weird. Why does that cause "English" to link to w:Memento Project? Do you not want me to use [[w:Memento Project]] either, or is that OK?? I don't want to cause a problem, but I'd like to leave it in use, just 'till we understand this bug. I'm guessing this is a bug introduced by the wikidata system. I am trying to get the search tool to do a literal search for pages with "[[en:" on them..--Elvey (talk) 20:14, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
Yes, I know it works with the extra ":", (as I said, ":en:Memento Project, that is, "[[:en:Memento Project]]" works. ") but what about all the (very many?) pages that don't have the extra ":"?--Elvey (talk) 20:14, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
Please strike your "Works for me.", to make things clearer, since if I understand you correctly, you're not saying that "[[en:Memento Project]]" works for you any more.--Elvey (talk) 20:18, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
[[en:Memento Project]] has always worked on talk pages but not on subject pages, as far as I am aware. Same with all other language codes. Prefixes which are not language codes (such as w: and m:) do not need any colon at the beginning. --Stefan4 (talk) 20:51, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
Related follow up: I tried to use the new search engine to do a literal search for pages with "[[en:" on them, to no avail. I think
this should have worked, but didn't.
Ditto.--Elvey (talk) 22:28, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
Done - recategorised but category never existed. However I am concerned about the permission for these images, because the source does not appear to have a license, so I have tagged them. Green Giant (talk)16:48, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
I have reported DLindsley for his abusive edits. His edits have been looked into, and his speedy deletion nomination has been changed by administrator. The image is question will certainly be accepted as soon as competent personell looks into the actual ownership, which of course is mine. Kjetil Prestesæter (talk) 20:33, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
My edits are not "abusive" like you keep claiming. You removed speedy deletion tags, which is not right at all, making me do the reverts that I did. Wikimedia Commons reserves the right to do anything with your files. DLindsley (My talk page) 20:41, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
I just noticed that all uploads of SrkunaKorra08 (talk·contribs) have only 200 x 200 Pixels, but are excessively large, usually 99 MBytes. I took the pain to download one of his uploads, which took 103 MBytes on my harddisk. IrfanView showed a 200x200 Pix image of terrible quality and stated that the file had progressive JPEG compression with quality level 63, which is absolutely awful. However, all this does not explain the extreme filesize. Any idea? By the way, when I used the "optimize JPEG" function of IrfanView on this file, a mere 23 kBytes file resulted. --Túrelio (talk) 20:18, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
Strings on one of them reveals "Super Nani 2014 PREDVD RIP 750mb.mp4", so it's a pirated version of a theatrical movie stuck in a JPEG. Burn with fire.--Prosfilaes (talk) 20:27, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
Wow, that's bad. Eventually, we should ask the WMF developers or "our" coders whether they could design a filter that either automatically recognizes MP4-typical code in such uploads or detects the imbalance between image size and file size. It was just pure chance that one of these file caught my eye. We may host more such files that slipped through upload-patrol. --Túrelio (talk) 21:05, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
There's no way to recognize this; assuming they control the means of extraction, a trivial cipher could hide it from any filter we wrote. Unlike a virus (and we all know how trivial it is to find those) there's no architectural constraints on how they have to be stored. I'd say whether or not I found that string I would have recommended deletion, because that file size leads almost inescapably to the conclusion that some means of storing data in the image was used. (Of course, anyone could be using Commons to store small amounts of data--in a large image, you could probably stuff a novel in a way that would hard to detect--but there's nothing we can do about that, and small amounts of data are trivial to transfer in ways that aren't subject to editing and deletion in the ways that Commons images are.) So, yeah, hopefully large files with small images can be automatically detected.--Prosfilaes (talk) 21:36, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
Necessary information is present in the database tables, and as far as I see, there are no similar problems with old files. --Krd08:28, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
I don't know about this particular file, but many of these types of files are combined RAR and jpgs (Probably because there's so many tutorials online about how to make a dual rar-jpeg, e.g. [12] [We already block combined zip-jpeg images]). Blocking dual rar-jpeg files should be fairly easily do-able on the MediaWiki side. As for putting a limit on pixels vs file size, perhaps that could be done with abuse filter? Bawolff (talk) 16:04, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
For whatever reason, the URL contains the option limit=1, which limits the list to one user. I hope someone knows which mediawiki page needs to be changed.--Ymblanter (talk) 21:24, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
Upload a new version still has 100 MB limit, unlike Upload Wizard (1000 MB limit)
Dear Admin,
While trying to upload a better resolution version (308 MB) of File:Accidents will happen William-H.-Watson-Universal-Star-Featurette-1922.ogv using the Upload a new version button, an error message appears: Het bestand is groter dan de instelling van de server toestaat = File size exceeds server setting. Upload Wizard now easily handles input files of say 800 MB (limit 1000MB).
Can this upload feature get the same file size limit as Upload wizard (1000 MB) ?
Features are not discussion limited to Admins. It may be an idea to post a comment at Village pump including a link to the the bugzilla request, as the level of community interest can influence how improvements are prioritized. --Fæ (talk) 13:57, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
Rillke's Chunked Uploads works pretty well, and IMHO, much better than the Upload Wizard. In fact, I use it for any upload which is more than 20 MB because of my poor connection. Regards, Yann (talk) 14:20, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
Hi admins — this is to inform you that I just started a formal request to have CheckUser privileges removed from the account of Gmaxwell (talk·contribs) as result of his inactivity for a period longer than one year. Your thoughts and opinions are, as always, warmly welcome and encouraged. Thanks, odder (talk) 20:11, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
It's incorrect to say that I've been inactive longer than a year, actually I was inactive for a few months when changing jobs and being without a computer sutiable for use on these projects. Worse, the eager revocation of rights left me unable to edit at all due to proxy blocking, so I couldn't even respond to it. I don't really care at this point, but the record should reflect that commons declined my assistance rather than me being unwilling to offer it. Cheers. --Gmaxwell (talk) 21:00, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for years of good work :) but why you have ignored the previous AN discussion? I notified you via e-mail and i also added the torunblock flag to your account. --Steinsplitter (talk) 21:06, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
After finding I couldn't reply on the wiki, I gave it a big "sigh" and decided not to chase after it beyond sending an email. I actually missed your note in response, sorry about that.--Gmaxwell (talk) 21:40, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed, and will be archived soon. Proper action (DR) taken. No need to continue. —revimsg08:17, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
There is a disagreement between me and another user about this file: It was explicitly uploaded to have an alternate version with a ®. For this reason, I removed the duplicate tag and suggested to the other user to file a DR, if he disagrees. The user, however, prefers to editwar. Could an uninvolved admin please file a DR to allow a discussion, whether or not it makes sense for Commons and its (re-)users to provide two alternative versions? --Leyo20:20, 8 November 2014 (UTC) PS. I did not touch the other three FIFA logos tagged as duplicates by that user.
We do not need 5 copies of the exact same image, anybody with any sense will surely agree. We shouldn't even have had 5 images in the first place and the only reason we do is due to Leyo's deliberate obstinance to what should be a completely uncontroversial matter. The (R) symbol is purely a courtesy symbol that signals the logo in question is registered as a trademark. It is not nor will it ever be an actual official part of the logo itself. There are no rules on Commons stating that the (R) must be included in our logo files, and considering trademarks are completely irrelevant to Commons there is also no real reason to include it either. But because Leyo was so obstinate to it's removal, the image was forked into 5 copies all with minor differences. There is absolutely no need for any of this, there should be one image and that image should be File:FIFA Logo (2010).svg which both excludes the unnecessary (R) symbol and has the desired safe space around the image. The other 4 should be deleted as duplicates. Any other user besides Leyo and this wouldn't need a second glance, it is only because of Leyo is this turned into kind of dispute. Fry1989eh?20:28, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
This is your subjective point of view. I have a different one.
BTW: How come that you like to discuss lengthily here on AN, but not in a DR (the right place)? ;-) --Leyo20:35, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
Your point of view is not based on any reasonable argument, and that is why I ignore it. Tell me why we must include the (R) symbol. Tell me what rule there is that we must. Tell me what will happen if we don't. Tell me what harm will be caused if we don't. You don't have any arguments, you just want to be obstinate to something nobody else cares about. Fry1989eh?20:38, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
Especially after making such a song-and-dance over the last couple of days with regard to slightly different duplicates of chemical symbols. In this instance he was insistent that the duplicate shouldn't exist because (well, one of the reasons anyway) it was not that much different from the the other file. Double standards? --Fred the Oyster (talk) 20:47, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
(EC) If someone disagrees with a speedy (incl. duplicate), filing a DR is the right thing to do, while editwarring is not. I would accept the outcome of a DR.
Of course it's obvious. After the crap you given me over the last couple of days you think I'd miss a chance to point out your dual standards? --Fred the Oyster (talk) 21:13, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
The case is irrelevant, what is relevant however is that one of your arguments, and rationales for deletion, is that the file is a duplicate with minor differences from the older file. Now that to me is at best ironic, and at worst hypocritical. I'll leave others to decide what they think is the more accurate one. --Fred the Oyster (talk) 22:32, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
Would you really though? After the massive argument of this issue you made causing the image to be forked into 5 files because you care so desperately that the logo MUST have the (R) symbol or else the sky will fall? I don't believe that for a moment. Fry1989eh?20:54, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
The outcome that in the end, it were 5 files, was a mistake. As you have noted, I did not touch the dupe tag in 3 cases. In the case of File:FIFA Logo (R) (2010).svg, a discussion is needed in order to come to a decision by an uninvolved admin. --Leyo21:00, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
A mistake YOU caused, because you care about something nobody else cares about strong enough to fight about it but not strong enough to make any actual arguments in favour of your belief. You just say you think it should include the symbol you won't say why to any of my questions. Fry1989eh?21:03, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
As I said in my initial comment we only need one file. This is an incredibly simple logo, no notable variations, and there certainly is no need for 5 (nearly) identical files. Leyo never did provide any real argument for why it is so imperative to include the (R) symbol, especially considering it is not an official part of the logo, and they have not provided any argument for it now upon request. I therefore request an admin to delete the other four duplicate files and redirect them to File:FIFA Logo (2010).svg. That should not require an official DR process, it should just require some common sense from a good admin. Fry1989eh?01:15, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
Some re-users may wish (or need to) to use the logo as it appears in official FIFA documents (example).
It does appear as in FIFA documents. We are talking about the logo itself, which the (R) symbol is not part of! That symbol is used only to signify that the FIFA logo (or ANY logo for that matter) is registered as a trademark which means NOTHING on Commons. We are only concerned with copyright and if the logo was copyrighted it wouldn't even be allowed on Commons in the first place. Fry1989eh?01:52, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
It's absolutely stupid that I have to do this, but here is the DR. Fred the Oyster & Alan, I expect the both of you can support this easily enough considering you both see through the idiocy of this. Fry1989eh?03:01, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
The above discussion is closed, and will be archived soon.
Is Chrome screwing up or Mediawiki?
I was just about to add some tags to File:Tandiriderz.jpg but realised that there was no edit link. There was a "create" link, which if clicked told me that the file I was looking at didn't exist. Strange as I could swear that I was looking at the silouette of a couple of motorcycle stunt riders.So can't edit it, non of the Javascript gadgets can see it. --Fred the Oyster (talk) 03:34, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
It's not a matter of Chrome. The file description page just misses entirely. Hence, there is nothing to edit. ;-) --Leyo03:41, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
I've deleted it and asked the uploader to try uploading it again. No edit history was created during uploading of the file, only a file history. The uploader could possibly have been gotten to "create" a page with info/license, but for a first time uploader I figured re-uploading would be easiest, not to mention the "create" idea might not have even worked. INeverCry04:33, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
Please close and keep this file nominated for deletion
Administrators.
The file File:Paris_montage2.jpg has been nominated for deletion the October 13 and neither admin closed this DR. The montage contains some pictures of old french monuments (indluding the Crystal Piramid at the Louvre Museum), all of them properly sourced and licensed. So, the file must be kept. Please close them. --Amitie 10g (talk) 20:52, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
This Deletion Request is interesting as the image here is licensed as ARR but there is a catalogue of images by this flickr account owner on Commons and they are, I believe licensed freely. I don't know who the uploader of this image is or if the uploader was pretending to be the copyright owner. Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 01:38, 9 November 2014 (UTC) It seems likely now that the uploader is indeed Kirk Stauffer, who is named as the photographer in the metadata as he doesn't seem to have posted this image on his flickr account. --Leoboudv (talk) 05:54, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
BUT based on the DR discussion, it seems that this other Deleted Image should be restored based on this Clear Statement by Kirk Stauffer. Should an Admin restore it and place that statement in the image's talkpage? Perhaps the image's metadata will also name Kirk Stauffer as the photographer. I assume Green Giant did not know about this as I did not know either. Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 05:48, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
Leoboudv, I have restored the file so it can be looked at. The EXIF does indeed name Kirk but the Flickr license is ARR, so are we all happy to accept the CC-BY-SA 3.0 license? I am now confused because there appear to be two accounts (User:KirkStauffer and User:Kirkstauffer) involved in this matter. Are they owned by the same person? Green Giant (talk)21:45, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
I am also puzzled by the two accounts, but point out (as I did on the filedesc) that the image here is not the same as the image at Flickr. (Look at the right hand.) User:Kirkstauffer stated here that they were specifically and exclusively licensing the file uploaded here for use on Wikipedia. Dwpaul (talk) 22:12, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
User Dwpaul is right. The picture on flickr that Green Giant restored is Not identical to the image posted on the given flickrlink. Based on this statement by Statement by Kirk Stauffer, I think we can accept that this image is Kirk Stauffer's own work. Finally, when I nominated the first image for deletion, I got this message by this Commons account--the same Commons account that Uploaded the other images by Kirk Stauffer. Best Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 02:00, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
A bit of history - I have accounts on several wikis, starting with en (where I no longer bother to edit) and here on Commons, where I am MPF (talk) (and have been for many years). To make edits on other language wikis (mainly replacing misidentified pictures with correctly identified ones), I opened some accounts there too (many years before unified login came in), starting with nl, where I am also User:MPF. However, when I tried starting User:MPF on another wiki (I forget whether it was da, de, or fr), the user name MPF was already taken, so there, and on subsequent signups, I used User:MPF-UK, which I now have on da, de, es, fr, it, pt (and maybe one or two others I've forgotten about) wikis.
This has all worked perfectly well until a couple of days ago, when suddenly, without notification, if I logged into one of my MPF-UK accounts it very annoyingly auto-logged me out of my Commons account, and relogged me back in as a non-existent "User:MPF-UK" on Commons. I'd like to return to how it was, so that I can make edits on my various User:MPF-UK wiki accounts at the same time as making edits here with my User:MPF account, without the nuisance of having to log out and log back in every time. Can this be sorted, please! - MPF (talk) 14:58, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
Thanks! Trying to create a global account, but I can't find how to add my MPF-UK accounts; also there is an es:User:MPF which is not me, while some on a de:User:MPF appear to be mine but others not??? (different editing style and on pages I know nothing about). At the moment I'm stuck in a circle "If these accounts do belong to you, you can finish the login unification process simply by typing the passwords for the other accounts here:" - which I can't do, so it returns me to the same page. - MPF (talk) 15:50, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
OK thanks! Yep, it appears I now have an account on meta, which I didn't before ;-) At that meta:Steward requests/Username changes page, do I need to fill out a separate request for each of my User:MPF-UK accounts? Hope I can remember all of them!! - MPF (talk) 16:02, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
You have filed a request to rename your commons accounts. This is completely wrong. Plese read the Single User Login finalisation announcement (and related pages) again. --Steinsplitter (talk) 20:31, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
Doesn't look too promising - found this statement on here:
Can I merge different usernames?
No, but this might be possible in future versions.[5] Note that usernames on most individual projects can preemptively be renamed.
Hello. @Cirt: moved Category:Michael Davis to Category:Michael E. Davis through copy-pasting the wikitext, which means that anyone watching the old category won't now be watching the new category. Please could this be fixed by temporarily deleting the new category and properly moving the old category to the new location? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 21:09, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
I have put together a report of images with unusually high levels of overwriting by multiple contributors within the last week at User:Fæ/SignificantReverts; probably only of interest to administrators, so mentioning it here. The intention is to flag images at risk of revert wars. The report naturally includes some images that are planned to have regular updates and I would be happy to include some extra filtering to exclude them. If anyone finds this interesting, take a look and I'll consider ways of making it more useful. The runtime required on the database query for this report is relatively minor, so I have left it to update itself twice a day which I think is sufficient. The "priority" is an indication of how long the file history is, with "3" showing that overwrites are more than 1,000; in practice we could probably filter out all with more than 100 changes as these are well beyond the levels we might associate with simple revert wars. --Fæ (talk) 00:10, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
Maybe add a hidden category "continuously updated in 2014" or similar to harmless cases like the hurricane (and flip it to 2015 if the updates continue next year.) Somebody with social skills (= not me) could then try some damage control for almost harmless cases, e.g., folks should be able to agree on what was or was not a British colony if they discuss and publish their definitions and references on the same talk page (or fight it out on the same Wikipedia.) But those same sex marriage issues or Ukrainian splinter republics... <shudder />. –Be..anyone (talk) 06:48, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
Sorting by Hist (was Priority) seems to work fairly well. I had a look at what links here and there may be value in checking for the file ever appearing in DRs or on AN; something for the longer term.
I looked carefully at File:Natalie Portman Thor 2 cropped.png. This appears in the SignificantReverts report but not on User:Fæ/BLP overwrites, as one of the users has more than 2,000 edits on en.wp. It's an interesting case, the only image of a person flagged. A possible improvement would be to highlight BLP images using a similar test to that on the BLP report. --Fæ (talk) 09:59, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
The photographer is overwriting a small PNG with his much better JPG, and the user who worked on the PNG missed that his new "opponent" is the original author. Guessing: –Be..anyone (talk) 10:29, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
On balance, I think this is a useful report to add to the database reports available for admins; I'll add it to the main list when it feels stable. It provides a useful early warning for potential recent revert warring, and is handy positive list for identifying the "hottest" images in terms of overwrites being used for interesting cooperative projects. I'm travelling for the next few days, but I'll ponder on how best to add a topic column or similar to identify maps, charts of data, BLP images, those with a history of going to deletion review and perhaps some extra useful metrics such as the total number of unique contributors. --Fæ (talk) 13:16, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
I'm joining the NL hackerthon this weekend, it will probably be very wikidata focused, but I'll try to put aside a bit of time to take a look (as a bit of SQL it does not sound particularly complex; I may be wrong ). --Fæ (talk) 21:52, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
You may want to revert the DR on the above file, as the reason stated in the DR is "adadgadgadgadgadgadgadgadgadgadgadgadgadgadgadgadadgdadgadgadgadgadgadgadadgadgadgadg". DLindsley (My talk page) 22:08, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
Dear colleagues. It has recently been discussed on IRC which possibilities exists to reduce the daily amount of files in Category:Media without a license as of 16 November 2014 (example) as the current amount seem higher than comfortable. We observe that there are lots of files in the no-license categories which have, beside no license, an external source and/or external or unknown author so that there is no permission, too.
Those files should not be kept 7 days but should be marked a copyvios and processed as such as soon as possible. Corresponding bot code has been developed to retag those files. Before this is taken live, please advise if there are objections. Thank you. --Krd18:11, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
Yes, thanks for taking care of that. As I said, the criteria for speedy deletion should be IMHO: no license+source(external URL/Google/Facebook/etc.)+size<200K. 99.9% of these are blatant copyvios. Regards, Yann (talk) 18:30, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
Could a ru-native speaker take care of new user Bukvnabor2 (talk·contribs)? He has uploaded a number of likely encyclopedically valuable historical images (see Category:Mikhail Aleksandrovich Lifshitz), but claimed himself to be the author (likely a misunderstanding of his reproduction work) and provided an obscure source. However, eventually these shortcomings can be healed and probably some of the images are PD anyway. --Túrelio (talk) 09:20, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
Done to the English version While the template is, as you say, fully protected, the English subpage Template:Anonymous-EU/en is only semi-protected, so you could have made the change yourself. There are also 18 other language versions that need changing. . Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 10:26, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
This will require one or two people to receive account creator rights on this wiki. Are their likely to be any objections to this or should I just go ahead and file requests with the stewards after the preperation meeting on wednesday?Geni (talk)
Perhaps I do not understand, but I don't think any new rights will be required. A new user can create an account himself and use it to upload images. There are, as far as I know, no "account creator rights" on Commons.
However, I suggest strongly that you deal with copyright issues carefully. It is likely that everything in the new gallery will be under copyright. While Freedom of Panorama is fairly broad in the UK, unless the museum is giving a blanket license, any 2D graphic works, which includes anything on a video screen, photographs, and posters cannot be hosted on Commons. Anything that contains more than short phrases of text will also be a problem. If the museum is giving a blanket license, then I suggest that you create a new copyright template for the project so that images are not immediately tagged for deletion review. . Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 10:39, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
The 6 accounts per IP is the issue yes. I think I can handle the copyright issue (while I haven't seen the gallery in question the science museum tends to be pretty 3D artifact heavy)..Geni (talk) 12:25, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
I have no idea what the science museum's IP block actually is. There is a meeting tomorrow. Do you know what the turn around time on such requests usually is?Geni (talk) 12:31, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
FYI, I was given account creation rights by Harry a few weeks ago for a similar event but it was then taken away before I got a chance to use it. I'll be at this event now. Andrew (talk) 14:03, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
Sounds like this is closed. There should be an admin at the event and they can handle any problems or hang out on IRC if they need advice (though if Harry is involved, I doubt he needs any ). It should be noted (based on my discussions with the Science Museum over 2 years ago about events) that the public wifi is known to be misused, so caution needs to be taken. --Fæ (talk) 14:39, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
I won't be there. Although by way of a quick suggestion: if somebody has the appropriate rights on enwiki (or any other Wikimedia project) and you hit the limit, you could just create the accounts there and, courtesy of SUL, the username and password should here. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:50, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
Done User has been blocked as a sock, and remaining uploads have passed review (Bollywood Hungama). INeverCry 18:48, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Oppose an unblock. I noticed the removal of {{Sockpuppeteer}} from his userpage. My tagging of him as a sockpuppeteer on his userpage was backed up by an RFCU, and yet he called it "libellous" again just 4 hours ago. He's a confrontational, disruptive individual who can't work with others in a collegial way for any considerable length of time. I've never seen an unblock request from him, which I would oppose, unless he changes his usual tune pretty quickly. He himself wouldn't be able to participate in an RFC or at any other venue but his talk, and so if he wants to be unblocked he should do it the proper way according to blocking policy which is an unblock request, where he can state how he's going to change the negative behavior that led to the block. INeverCry 01:19, 28 September 2014 (UTC).svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment_(orange).svg.png)
Comment - Thanks for the inputs. I remembered him mainly as the hard working user who sorted out a lot of things, but I also realize that I was absent at the time that he got blocked. - Jcb (talk) 16:03, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
Neutral - I mean he is (was good working) an common "Commons-user". ↔ User: Perhelion (Commons: = crap?) 23:55, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
INeverCry 21:11, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
This section is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, replace this template with your comment. Jmabel ! talk 15:42, 5 October 2014 (UTC) 
Abstain Because of no help, another solution was used sarang♥사랑 07:02, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
--Fæ (talk) 08:24, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
.jpg){kind=link}
_(2010).svg){kind=link}
.jpg){kind=link}
.jpg){kind=link}
_in_Ōminato,_-28_september_2012_a.jpg){kind=link}
.jpg){kind=link}
_-_1883_ca._-_Autoritratto_con_John_Laurie_Wallace.jpg){kind=link}
.jpg){kind=link}
_-_n._1459.jpg){kind=link}
,_2011,_Arraial_Pride_2011._(6236745301).jpg){kind=link}
.jpg){kind=link}
.jpg){kind=link}
.jpg){kind=link}
.jpg){kind=link}
![[6]](https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3ALisboa_%28P%29%2C_2011%2C_Arraial_Pride_2011._%286236745301%29.jpg&action=historysubmit&diff=135020732&oldid=135017995){kind=link}
![[7]](https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3ALisboa_%28P%29%2C_2011%2C_Arraial_Pride_2011._%286236745301%29.jpg&action=historysubmit&diff=135046707&oldid=135031852){kind=link}
,_2011,_Arraial_Pride_2011._(6236745301).jpg){kind=link}
,_2011,_Arraial_Pride_2011._(6236744605).jpg){kind=link}
.JPG){kind=link}
){kind=link}
.jpg){kind=link}
.jpg&action=edit&redlink=1){kind=link}
.jpg){kind=link}
.jpg){kind=link}
_(2010).svg){kind=link}
_(2010).svg){kind=link}
_(2010).svg){kind=link}
.svg){kind=link}
WTF? Lately it seems you're looking for rare justifications. Do you have much free time? 
Alan (talk) 23:43, 8 November 2014 (UTC).svg){kind=link}
INeverCry 20:30, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
). It should be noted (based on my discussions with the Science Museum over 2 years ago about events) that the public wifi is known to be misused, so caution needs to be taken. --Fæ (talk) 14:39, 18 November 2014 (UTC)