Talk:Vijñāna

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Note on use of Sanskrit vs. Pali

Good point from footnote from WP article:

"As is standard in WP articles, the Pali term viññāṇa will be used when discussing the Pali literature, and the Sanskrit word vijñāna will be used when referring to either texts chronologically subsequent to the Pali canon or when discussing the topic broadly, in terms of both Pali and non-Pali texts."

At some point we may want to clarify these standards somewhere.

Templates on skandhas imported from Wikipedia

Figure 1: The Pali Canon's Six Sextets:

sense bases

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f e e l i n g

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c r a v i n g

"internal" sense organs

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"external" sense objects

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contact

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consciousness

The six internal sense bases are the eye, ear, nose, tongue, body & mind. The six external sense bases are visible forms, sound, odor, flavors, touch & mental objects. Sense-specific consciousness arises dependent on an internal & an external sense base. Contact is the meeting of an internal sense base, external sense base & consciousness. Feeling is dependent on contact. Craving is dependent on feeling.

Source: MN 148 (Thanissaro, 1998)    diagram details

Figure 2: The Five Aggregates (pañca khandha) according to the Pali Canon.
	form (rūpa)   4 elements (mahābhūta)         ↓     contact (phassa)     ↓ ↑   consciousness (viññāna)	→ ←       ←	mental factors (cetasika)     feeling (vedanā)       perception (sañña)       formation (saṅkhāra)
Form is derived from the Four Great Elements. Consciousness arises from other aggregates. Mental Factors arise from the Contact of Consciousness and other aggregates.
Source: MN 109 (Thanissaro, 2001)  |  diagram details

I find these templates confusing, so I am removing them from the article. But I don't want to discount them altogether, so I am adding them to this talk page in case I wish to reconsider.

I think one of the problems with them is that they are using English translations for terms, and assuming the reader will know what the translations refer to. -Dorje108 (talk) 19:23, 6 July 2018 (UTC)